cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695
After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…
So that’s it ? RCS will only be available through Apple’s iMessage and Google’s Messages. What a shame
Google’s dream of hijacking an open standard (on Android at least) is achieved :/
They had a messages app?
Samsung has their own dedicated redundant app for everything that comes pre-installed and is unremovable.
It’s why I haven’t even looked at a Samsung since the S6.
Drives me nuts when I type a apps name and Samsungs knockoff version shows up. The Samsung wallet… Jeez
Disable or uninstall the ones you don’t want to use. Most of them can be. (Still a hassle though.)
I do agree with the non-unique naming complaint though. Do I want to use Messages or Messages?
Yeah, it’s not as noisy and messy as Google’s, it let’s you folder messages by category and has a nice clean quiet interface designed for large displays. Google’s tries to push and sell you on features every time you use it.
A pity the good one is going away.
For SMS / texting
I do not know both of these. Amazing.
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Sorry, what? Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space). I have Signal and WhatsApp on my phone for my international friends, but I use texts to communicate with US friends because RCS works with everyone and it’s integrated much better into my phone, watch, etc. than any app can be without an absurd amount of permissions given to the app.
Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space).
The entire rest of the world doesn’t whine about such things and just uses a 3rd party messenger that works the same across all platforms.
You’re the only one whining. People use SMS in the US because it’s free and completely interoperable with every other phone. If you send someone an SMS you know with great certainty that it will be received. Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.
You’re the only one whining.
No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.
Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.
The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram. You must me have confused with someone else.
No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.
No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.
The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram.
While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it, which is exactly why its an insufficient replacement for SMS. It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.
Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.
No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.
All those stubborn Americans do that, whether they spell it out all the time out not.
While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it
Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.
It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.
In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan). Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.
Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.
Lolno.
I’d still rather use meta tho (which end to end encrypts the content) than unencrypted plaintext shit that goes straight to the government.
Yes that’s all well and good if the person you’re trying message uses WhatsApp…
The fact you think Meta won’t hand over your data is sad. If you think they can’t save your “encrypted” messages you’re delusional. Their business model is selling user’s data. You can take it to the bank they have a backdoor built in.
The fact that youre illiterate and you’re hallucinating stuff i never said, is sad. I will address your concern however.
If you think that they are actually not encrypting the message content, then you’re a conspiracy theorist. They have thousands of other ways to track the user and give metadata to law enforcement. There is no need for them to lie about protecting the messages, as none of the regular users care about that. They had more than enough users of Messenger even before it was E2EE.
Australia checking in.
Everyone can send and receive SMS. It’s always the primary /default contact method.
Close friends can be contacted via whatever third party app but there’s no single platform everyone uses other than SMS.
What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?
There are plenty of alternatives to the native SMS Texting app, for Example Quik SMS - no trackers and it’s very smooth.
Also for secured messaging - there is Signal, and they are top Dog in that end.
Whatscrap is just a platform for Meta to scan your messages and make customized ads for you.
There are plenty of alternatives to the native SMS Texting app
Nobody outside the USA cares about SMS, though.
I’m merely responding to his post. Maybe he’s in the US?
What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?
There are plenty of alternatives. Do you live under a rock or why aren’t you aware of Signal, Telegram, etc.?
Funny. I just uninstalled Google Messages a few days ago in favor of QUIK SMS. I miss nothing.
I did the same weeks ago and I miss lots.
Really? Like what? I’m not a heavy SMS user.
I really miss support for iMessage style reactions. Now I just get messages like “Emphasized an image” or “Liked an image” with no idea which image was being reacted to half the time, like in a big group chat with 10 people.
QUIK very often says “Sending…” on a picture message forever (literally), even when it’s already been received and responded to. And often fails to send messages altogether when my signal is weak, and apparently doesn’t retry in the background. It forces you to try to resend it and then it’ll say “sending” forever half the time. I routinely have to ask my friends if they received messages if they don’t reply right away. So the core functionality of sending messages and ensuring they’re sent is broken.
Picture messages are limited in size to some number you have to choose in settings. If you get it wrong the messages are guaranteed to fail. A number like 600k or 800k, up to 2000k After experimenting, 800 often fails for me, and 600 seems to work all the time, but the pictures look like crap. They get shrunk a ton. Google’s Messages app must negotiate a size with your carrier because it never makes you choose what size to use and pictures look better, too.p
No RCS. iOS will have RCS built into iMessage and I think it’ll be on by default. You’ll finally get message confirmations and encryption, and typing indicators if you like that sort of thing. I’ve tested it with my friend who already has 18 because he works for Apple and it works great.
I’m about ready to give up and just go back to Messages. I dont like that they track who you text and even send themselves hashes of your messages, but my own personal boycott of the app isn’t going to help anyone who actually needs the privacy.
Didn’t they do this starting with the galaxy s20?
