https://lemmy.world/c/politics@lemmy.ml
This suddenly does not work
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It looks like the problem is on lemmy.ml, not lemmy.world
Does not work either.
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.ml are outwardly and proudly tankie weirdo fuckfaces, doesn’t suprise me at all to see them do something like this where the intent is to concentrate all political talk into a more easily controlled community.
edit: I was banned for 6 months from .ml lol
I wonder if it was because I called them weirdos
Seems like lemmy.ml is really collapsing in on itself. Overall not good for the general health of the fediverse. We need large “sibling” instances rather than monoliths like .world, which is to say nothing of the politics of the instance. The fewer “medium” to "large’ instances are, the more reliant the whole system becomes on “very large” monoliths like .world, which overall weakens the integrity of the network.
This also highlights the destructiveness of toxic moderation. There is plenty of it here too, but there needs to be some kind of accountability/ redress if open & free communities are going to be a long term project. Not really a big deal in the long run and something we’ll just have to keep working on.
We need large “sibling” instances rather than monoliths like .world, which is to say nothing of the politics of the instance.
Absolutely 1000%
This also highlights the destructiveness of toxic moderation. There is plenty of it here too
I can’t believe that lemmy mods/admins still think they have the luxury of making bone headed moves in a decentralized network. I am determined to get around this and it is the entire reason I am on a decentralized system. We vote with our feet and in the long term it will all work out. I am looking for suggestions for a politics group that is not lemmy.world and not lemmy.ml.
Absolutely 1000%
Curious, coming from a LW account
Curious, coming from a LW account
Why are you curious. On a decentralized platform, It matters where you post TO, not where you post FROM. Anybody can easily switch to posting from another platform.
I see where you come from, but using one instance still makes it active, encouraging new joiners looking for an instance to join it too.
LW got so popular because it had most of the users at some point, and that only went further over time.
I slightly disagree. I think what needs to happen is there needs to be general instances, and specialized instances. By the nature of how they work, specialized instances would have more content, but less hosted users.
So Lemmy.World would be a general instance. You can host any community on a general instance, but it will do better if it can be hosted on a specialized instance (which most topics can be).
There may be niche topics that will do better on general instances, mostly if it doesn’t fit into any other catagory.
But lets say you want to follow your favorite baseball team. Well, you know Sports.InstanceName has all the sports. So you go there, search for your team and find TeamName@Sports.Instance
And if everybody did this, the fediverse would at least make sense.
But lets say you want a community based on collecting toe nail clippings from the right foots pinky. Well, I can’t imagine a specialized instance would ever be made that you’d include THAT community. So you go to RightFootPinkyToeNailClippings@Lemmy.World and it will have like 3 subscribers.
Now, back to the baseball team for a second. IF you only come to the fediverse to talk baseball, maybe you’re fine being hosted on Sports.Instance. However most people would want their home instant to be a general instance. So that when they click “local” they get a bit of everything, whereas you hosted on the sports instance would only get sports.
The problem I see with the fediverse is there is a HUUUUUUUUGE learning curve. When you first get here, with zero introduction to the concepts of the platform, you’re just thrown in. I’ve even been insulted by people who assumed I didn’t know how the platform worked. Saying “You’re supposed to sort by subscribed, dumbass!”. The thing is, the problem I was describing WAS sorted by subscribed.
The way I’m describing, a new user can know "oh, this is where I find the sports, this is where I find the music, this is where I find the TV, ect ect ect.
You can still make SportsTeam@Lemmy.World, but without people looking for it there, you won’t get many people subscribing unless there’s some MAJOR issue with Sports.Instance.
You could also make Baseball.Instance. whereas Sports.Instance would be more of an all inclusive to all sports instance, which would help smaller sports communities grow, Baseball.Instance would be all about baseball communities.
And if I seem like I’m explaining the obvious, thats good. Thats the point. I want it to be obvious what every instance/community is, where it is, before you even seek it out or click it.
Beevisandbutthead@tv.instance. That doesn’t exist, but even as a hypothetical example, you already know what that community is going to be, and what that entire instance is catered to. You CAN’T click it, because it’s hypothetical, but you already know what it is.
That + a guide to the fediverse would go a LOOOOOONG way for newbies. I still don’t know how to visit Lemm.ee main page for example, without going there directly so I can stay logged in. I can figure out how to go to individual communities while logged in (and that whole process needs a simplification while we’re on the topic), but I can’t go to the main page, so I can click local, and see whats actively being posted to the whole instance like I can on my own instance. Theres probably a way…and it’s probably a bunch of overly complicated series of steps that isn’t naturally intuitive. Which is the biggest hurdle for this platform.
That + a guide to the fediverse would go a LOOOOOONG way for newbies
but I can’t go to the main page, so I can click local, and see whats actively being posted to the whole instance like I can on my own instance. Theres probably a way…
There is not
That should be the first thing new users see. But also, it doesn’t go as far as I’m imagining. I’m imagining more of a wiki, with every single instance, with a description of what kind of content goes on that instance. What is that instance’s personality?
And then again for each individual community. You’d know which communities are active, and which not if the wiki doesn’t even have anyone that updates the wiki.
There is not
Well that removes a HUGE source of potential that Lemmy could have. It would be the second most useful new feature they could implement.
You’d know which communities are active
There is a weekly thread on !newcommunities@lemmy.world to promote active communities
And that’s great. Thats one way to promote the new communities. Smaller communities as they’re just starting out need all the help they can get. I fully appriciate that it exists.
What I’m suggesting would be in addition to that, and it would promote ALL communities. Big and small. It could even have a search bar, where you tell the guide what topics you’re interested in, and it could return a list of all communities that fit your search, sorted by big to small.
So, my idea is a different kind of tool. Both should exist, but you would use them for different purposes.
So like https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
Nah .ml dying is great for the fediverse. Actually the denizens of .ml dying irl would be great for the world too
What
from modlog :
Time mod Action 6 hours ago mod Removed Community Politics reason: Unmoderated duplicate of /c/usa . Any world-related can use /c/worldnews https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity
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See better comment from kersploosh (administrator of …@ sh.itjust.works ) inside this post’s main commentsOh is it time for another defed campaign already?
Is your name Harris?
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