They don’t give a fuck about minimizing suffering, they gladly eat food grown by slaves, or overconsume things some communities rely on, or replace things made of leather with things made of plastic that’ll break down into microplastics. They force their shit into pets like cats who can’t thrive on a vegan diet. And that’s assuming they don’t just call you a nazi for even having a pet, or steal your pet from you so they can kill it. And ofc they’re just the most holier than thou pieces of shit anywhere, who think everyone who isn’t vegan is literally as bad as a fascist.
Yall are weird. Really weird. And you don’t have to be this harmful. Quit getting even more plastic shit, stop abusing pets, quit taking food from indigenous people who need it. You can minimize animal products without replacing them with even worse things, and failing to do so makes you just as much of an irredeemable fascist as the rest of us. Human suffering is not preferable to animal suffering. If you disagree, you are literally a sociopath
This isn’t an unpopular opinion. In fact, it’s an extremely popular one. Every corner of the internet goes out of their way to say they hate vegans, This isn’t even remotely original.
I’m not interested in changing your mind. You do as you like, and frankly it seems like you are just venting, so rock on. But if you are intersted in fact based discussions, I think you need to move past your the stereotypes, assumptions and flat out falsehoods.
No vegan thinks it is. I would kill an animal to save a human.
Snuggling my non-vegan cat right now.
Crazy people of every community exist. Without question the overwhelming majority of vegans do not support the behavior of a few that have done this. That is exactly as fair as me saying carnists practice cannibalism because of the handful of psychopaths to do so.
And the rest of your points fall under the “no ethical consumption under capitalism” good place type arguments. However, I find it particularly egregious to say vegans don’t mind slavery. If a human slave in involved in a plant based food, then it isn’t vegan.
Also, the argument of “but what about the exploited workers in the fields ?” is one of the weakest that’s always thrown around. Do they realy think that everyone working for the meat industry are all treated fairly ? All those fields of corn/soy that are used to feed the livestock, guess what, they also need workers.
Also, this is indeed not even an unpopular opinion. Vegans/vegetarians are all around some of the most hated groups of individuals. Source : https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1368430215618253
Also omnivores aren’t carnivores. I do eat meat but not mostly meat, I don’t think most people eat mostly meat. We are all eating a lot of the same food as vegan people. When my vegan daughter hosts dinner she serves things I make too. You aren’t going to get out of eating these slave grown vegetables by eating meat, unless you exclusively eat what you grow, forage, and hunt yourself.
This is a reference to shit vegans say about obligate carnivores. Yes, there are a number of vegans that think no one should own cats, and there are equally a number of vegans that think that cats should be fed a vegan diet with essential amino acid supplements rather than letting an obligate carnivore eat meat. It is simply not healthy for cats, and you would be very hard pressed to find any veterinarian that would say that it is.>
It’s certainly a sentiment among vegans that gets amplified in any space where they tend to congregate.
And there are WAY WAY WAY more vegans that work at animal shelters specifically trying to put animals in to homes.
The overwhelming majority of vegans do not do this. Like, I don’t know how to convince you of this other than saying in that of being vegan for 8+ years, going to vegan specific fairs/conventions, reading vegan literature, particating in vegan discords and moderating a vegan community that I have never once interacted with a a person who actually did this.
IN THE VERY LINK YOU PROVIDE, vegans calling this behavior out and saying if they can’t feed a cat meat, not to own one. This accusation simply isn’t based in reality.
No. It’s a vanishingly small minority that you are pretending is a monolith because it’s an easy strawman. Honestly you sound like the deluded pro-life folk who protest outside planned parenthood because they read online that post-birth 3rd trimester abortions happen all the time. I can’t stop you from believing in nonsense, but it frankly makes you sound ridiculous.
And yet, the ones that do tend to be very loud in online spaces.
Yes, vegans are calling it out in the link I gave. And there are also vegans in that thread–and in this one–insisting that it’s perfectly fine.
Whether or not it’s small, they’re loud. The fact that we’re even having this discussion is because mods in a vegan community had decided that it’s fine to say that obligate carnivores could be vegan, and–if I have my timeline correct–deleted commends from an admin saying otherwise.