• Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
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    A film that was routinely asked not to be made by fans is shit, suprise.

    The Crow worked due to Brandon Lee, his father’s legacy, and being the 90s. It was a collection of events that made an instant cult classic film.

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      Brandon Lee was also a good actor, and had most of the good lines in the film.

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      Fans routinely asked that no one make a Blade Runner sequel too. Sometimes fans don’t know what they’re talking about.

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        BR2049 is shit. A mix of uninspired stuff, nice concept art and fan service, with a bad CGI Rachel.

        I love Villeneuve’s work elsewhere, but there he really fucked up.

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          I completely disagree with it being shit, but your complaints still have some merit. I just think the end product overcomes those flaws by a mile.

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            Except for it being called Blade Runner and not striking any resemblance to the original.

            If it came out as it’s own thing I would have called it a good movie, although a bit bland and with poorly written characters, but as a sequel to Blade Runner, no way.

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          Background: I only watched the original before watching the sequel.

          IMO, the sequel is better.

          I felt like it took everything good about the original and improved upon it.

          My suspicion is that people who prefer the original are nostalgic for it.

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            Meh, I thought the second would have been a great movie if it was 20-30 minutes shorter. My god some of those scenes drag on.

            The first was ground breaking for its time. I don’t think it is nostalgia (although there is probably some) so much as context. A lot of the things that had people’s jaws on the floor are commonplace now. It’s hard to recreate that illusion especially if you’re comparing it to modern movies.

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        I enjoyed the new Blade Runner, but it wasn’t anywhere nearly as good as the original. Also, big difference between a sequel and a reboot

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    Between this and Borderlands, movies being in production hell forever seems to usually be a bad sign. Now I’m getting worried about Blade…

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      I mean yeah, they’ve already gone through 2 directors and it’s in limbo again. Not a good sign

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      And The Hobbit (respect to Del Toro for giving up before it was too late). And Justice League (even if, after Dawn of the Dead and 300, Snyder never did a good one again).

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      Blade? Did they bring Wesley Snipes back? Haven’t seen that guy since Expendables 2 and they did him dirty with the CGI Parkour.

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        No it’s someone called Mahershala Ali. With the sunglasses on he does actually look quite a lot like a young Wesley Snipes.

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          the last I heard of Blade was that it was going to be a cut-rate production and that “the story at one point morphed into a narrative led by women and filled with life lessons, with Blade relegated to the fourth lead” but that was apparently dropped? I don’t follow Disney/MCU like at all, but I came across this story and it stuck with me because it was kinda bizarre.

          https://comicbook.com/movies/news/marvel-blade-movie-budget-changes-female-led-story/

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            I heard that, too, but it’s changed writers like 3-4 times so it’s probably different now lol.

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          young Wesley Snipes

          That’s incredibly generous. The guy’s already 50 years old. 15 years older than Snipes was in the original Blade!

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            I think I’m referring more to his face shape. Like Wesley Snipes’ face shape changed as he got older. But I also didn’t realise the new guy was 50, Hollywood is a crazy place.

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    i mean i could have told them it was going to suck based on the trailer, but they don’t consult me. crow was a 90s edgelord-porn. it was only ever decent at best. to reboot it well would take some major deviations and much better writing. the trailer made it obvious it did none of that.

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      Lol edgelord-porn. You’ve given me new descriptors.

      I couldn’t stand even the previews for it in the 90’s…it just looked awful.

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        i watched the original, and it was ok, but the fandom around it that i recall was similar to the people that took Joaquin Phoenix’s or Heth Ledger’s Joker portrayals a bit too seriously and idolized it a bit too hard.

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    I could have told them this before they started making it, and saved them the time. There is only one Crow, and his name was Brandon Lee.

    It can’t rain all the time.

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    I haven’t seen the original since I saw it too young as a kid. Anyone here think it’s held up enough to be worth a rewatch?

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      It’s not a cinematic masterpiece but it had a distinctive look and vibe with a cool soundtrack, interestingly strange plot. I saw it again a few years ago and remembered why I liked it as an angsty teen.

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      The original was a time and a place thing imo. It was a vibe that had a lot to do with the music, a lot to do with the awful circumstances surrounding Brandon’s death. You know at the time there were conspiracies a surrounding those circumstances tying into the death of Bruce Lee too so the movie had this lore to it from the start. The other thing worth mentioning is that at the time goth/industrial (dare I say it…) emo were an actual thing. I personally saw the first film in 16 up docs, my girlfriends skinny jeans and yes a touch of the old eyeliner. What I’m saying is it was relevant to a subset of the youth market. Not sure that’s true today.

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        Honestly, with the resurgence of the dress of goth/emo without any of the requisite music taste, a huge rewatch of the crow by gen Z could realistically give us a goth girl winter.

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      It wasn’t good when it came out, why would it be good now? I understand this is an unpopular opinion, but it always wasn’t good.

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        Anything specific? I can overlook a lot of cinematic and technical issues in a film if the script and talent are good.

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          The script was boring, the plot was…boring. It was supposed to be like this fun, edgy thing and it wasn’t. They sold aesthetic, and for a time when that aesthetic was cool, this didn’t even come close to making it feel cool. I was a kid when this came out, and I saw it then and I didn’t enjoy it. I watched about half of it recently and I still found it boring and not entertaining.

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      We watched it last Devil’s Night Halloween. I was worried that watching it again was going to ruin yet another wonderful memory from my youth, but we still enjoyed it. It’s not the same watching it outside of the darkness of the grunge era from which it was created, but it’s still a good, and entertaining movie. Definitely worth a rewatch.

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      I think it’s absolute trash. But I don’t even remember if i ever liked it. I used to hang out with some goth kids who based their personality around that movie so i always remembered it as “cool”.

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        I wouldn’t say it is trash, but it does not hold up well imo. The best thing it has going for it is its soundtrack