• DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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    I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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      I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now.

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        I̴͖̿ ̴̉͜l̵̫̆i̵̠̊v̵̫͠ē̷̱ ̷̛̥î̸̢n̸͓͐ ̴̻̔a̷͗ͅ ̸͕͌"̵̝͐f̵̤̀i̸̢͐r̶̮̄ś̴͙t̶̫̚ ̸̠̉p̸̰͗a̷̙͒š̶͚t̷̪́ ̸̧̚t̶̳̕h̸̤̋ẽ̸͓ ̸̨̅p̶̣͠ō̵͖s̵̖̀t̵̬͠"̵̮̆ ̸̟͂c̶͉̒o̷̧̽u̷̙̓n̸̮̈t̶̫͝ṙ̶̬ý̸͙ ̵̯́ť̵̨h̸̻͊a̸̙̾ț̵̀ ̴̬̈́f̴̲̉ò̶̩r̷̯̕č̵̲e̷̩͐s̵̥̽ ̷͖̾à̵͍ ̵͂͜t̷̫͛w̵̮͑o̵̢̍-̶̦̓p̵̬̈ä̸̳r̶̼͝t̴̺̄ý̴̡ ̶̧̒ŝ̶̲y̴̪͆s̷͎͝ẗ̶̤ḙ̶̎m̴̯̂ ̶̠̌a̶͇̋ṅ̵̡d̸̦́ ̷͈͘p̴̺͝ȅ̶̟n̸̙̓ä̵͚́l̷͙̚i̵͈̓z̶̩̅é̷̖s̴͎̉ ̷̧͘v̶̪͛õ̵ͅṭ̵͗i̷͙̾n̴̼̔g̶̛̟ ̵̥̕ỷ̷̡ò̷̹u̵̬̚r̸͓̓ ̶̼̓c̸̩͑ȍ̷̲n̴̞͆s̷̰͗c̵̖̏i̶̥͊e̸̝͆n̴͉͋c̸̜̅ẹ̷́ ̴̝̍ṵ̶̋ṇ̷͝l̸̯̉è̴̙š̸̖s̴͎͐ ̴̲̐ị̴́t̸̹͐ ̵̬̀a̵̮̓l̸̺̈́i̵̬̒ģ̸̚n̶̻͂s̴̠͂ ̷͖̚w̷͙̆ì̷̺t̴̳̔ḧ̴͕́ ̴̣͂ő̷̡n̸̫͠e̷̥̿ ̸̧̒o̴̞̕ḟ̵͖ ̶͖͝t̸̖̃h̷̕͜ǫ̵̎s̶͉͆ẻ̵̙ ̷̨̓p̸͎̏á̷̭r̸̹͊t̸̻͗i̵̫̓ȩ̶̀s̶̹͝.̶͔̄ ̷͙̉Ẅ̷̘́h̷̤̽i̸͙̊ḽ̸̔ē̸̡ ̸̟̈́t̷͐ͅh̵̜̑e̵̗͊r̷̲͋ĕ̶̝ ̵͕̏m̵̬̑a̷̯̽y̴̡̔ ̶̹͂b̴̨̕e̴̺̚ ̴̖͠f̷̯͒l̸͚͒a̵̤̽ẃ̸̺s̵̲͠ ̶̮̏i̸͎̓n̴̘͊ ̸͓̄Ṙ̶͍a̴̘͆ṅ̷͔k̸͕̕e̶̟̅d̶̦̐ ̵̩̓C̵̛͎h̴̯̅ò̶̪i̴͇͑c̵̯͐e̷̡̎ ̶͚͗V̴̺̈o̸̩͒t̸̘̉ĩ̸͚n̴͓͋g̴̙͐ ̵̹̑t̷̪̏h̴͍̀ȁ̶͉t̸̟̒ ̸͎̌c̵͙̓o̷͎̎ú̷͇l̷̝͗d̶̹̃ ̸̛̪e̶͍̊m̷͚̌ë̵͔́ṟ̵͝ġ̸͉e̷̱͊ ̴̱͝į̵̋n̷̳̊ ̵̐͜f̴̠́r̵͔̊ȉ̶̻ń̸͔g̵͈̎e̵͔̓ ̵̻͝c̶̈́͜à̸̧s̴̘̅e̵̦̊s̴̩̉,̵̛̬ ̷̻͊í̴̡t̷͇̽ ̷̨͋ỉ̷̝s̷͙̅ ̵̖̍s̶̨͗o̸̗͌ ̵̧̐ỏ̸̟b̸͕̕v̴̻̓i̷̳̋ö̸͇́u̴̬͗s̵͙͑l̶̛͕ỵ̸͒ ̵͚͠ś̸̤ů̵̱p̸͈̊e̶͓̍r̴̗͛ỉ̶̦o̶͓͂r̷̡͝ ̸̩̏t̴̜͗ō̵̲ ̸̹̓o̸̞͂ù̸̜ȓ̵̺ ̸̱̀c̵̗̿ū̸̢r̶͓̾r̷̢̔e̸͇͠n̷͚̐ṱ̸̾ ̵͎̈s̷̋͜ẙ̶͙ș̴̑ṱ̶̓ē̶͉m̴̪̒ ̵͇̅ẗ̷́ͅh̸͉̄a̶͔̅t̵̘͆ ̶̪̿ǐ̵̬t̶̻̆ ̵̥̈ī̶̪s̴̚ͅ ̴̻̕ḥ̵͆a̸̔͜r̵̭͠d̸̲͝ ̸̨͌f̶͉͛o̴̹̊r̶̙̚ ̷͙͐m̷̪̋e̸͓͝ ̶̮͌t̷̺͊o̸͙̊ ̶̡̚w̵͍̅o̷̥͌r̷̠͆r̷͈͌ý̵̦ ̴͙̄t̸̝͂ỏ̴̥ŏ̷̲ ̷͔̈m̷̡̏ű̶̘c̶͎͐h̷̻́ ̴͕̈́ǎ̸̹b̶̡̃ọ̷͒ủ̸̟ẗ̸́͜ ̴̖̒t̶͖͛h̴͈͛e̶̫̅ ̶͎͝n̸̥̎u̶̹̎a̸͔͐n̴͓̎c̵̻̔e̸̹̐ ̶͇̐o̴̝͌f̶̖̚ ̴̙̓ḣ̶̹o̶͍̚w̵̻̚ ̵͓̂í̵̻ť̵̡ ̶̧̈́m̴̥̓i̴͉̅g̵͎͂ḧ̸͓́t̸̠̃ ̵̻̂ṋ̶͑ő̶̗t̷̥͂ ̴͉͊b̷̦̊e̴͇͐ ̷̾ͅ1̵̝̀0̸͇̈́0̷̳͑%̶̠̀ ̶̖̎p̷̙͠e̷̗͒r̷̪̀f̸̭̏é̷͜c̴͎̓t̸̛̖ ̴̯̄1̵̡͑0̴̻͠0̶̬͑%̷͍̐ ̸̢̛o̵̤̽f̷̞̒ ̷̲͋t̸̨̒h̵̠̀e̷̦͝ ̴̢́ṫ̵̟i̸͎̇ṃ̴͌è̵͚.̸̫͐ ̶͘͜Ą̸̈n̷̜͋y̷̜͒ ̸̱̈́(̶̣͆d̷̪͆e̸̖̕m̸͈͠o̴̬̿c̶̹̆r̵̩̈́á̸̜ẗ̴̗i̷̯̔c̷͛͜)̵͈̌ ̸͎͑ṣ̸̚y̵̢͠s̸̞̀t̵͖͊e̸̛̲m̵̼͘ ̴̤͠i̷̗͘s̴̟̄ ̴͖̈́b̸̧̒ë̶̹́t̶̤̑t̶͔̉ë̷̪́ȑ̶̲ ̸̩͒t̴̼̀h̶̲̉a̴̒͜n̴̖͂ ̸̙̃w̴͚̒h̴̳̒a̷̫̔t̷̲͝ ̷̘̈́w̵̨͗ē̵̝ ̵̻̏h̸̯͒a̷̡̓v̴̧̎e̶͛͜ ̵̺̕ņ̵̔o̷̧̐w̷̰̚.̶̡̾

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    I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

    This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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      I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

      This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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        I suppose that taking a comment and adding breasts is a reasonably-straightforward, mechanical way to make it more appealing.

        This does kind of suggest a potential endgame for what avatars wind up looking like.

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      I live in a “first past the breast” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those breasts. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in breast cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry too much abreast the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% of the time. Any (breastocratic) system is better than what we have now.

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    22 days ago

    They’re not just “casually” stealing comments. They steal a random comment from the video, then have a bunch of other bots give it a bunch of thumbs up so that it appears towards the top and accumulates more upvotes than most human comments make. 95% of the time it seems, the real comment has one or two upvotes and is buried so far you have to scroll multiple pages to reach it.

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      it also makes it a lot harder for skeptics taking a look at their account to reveal they’re a bot. When every actual post is a clear copy and paste but the history is mixed with comments that seem legitimate it takes more digging that’s just not worth doing

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    It doesn’t surprise me. I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% all of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now, even if it involves come bot casually stealing comments. 🙃

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    22 days ago

    Can someone explain to me the reason these bots exists? And why are they always so obvious, all of these bots pics has a girl in them and a very porno ad title kind of name? This bots picture was very mild (pretty normal even actually) compared to what I see in YouTubes comment section everyday… They can be extremely pornographic.

    Is this the new “Russian girl close to you” ad?

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      quantity over quality is a pretty effective scam technique, it’s hard to get money from experienced technical users. So the initial hook is sometimes designed to intentionally be obvious to those users so they know to ignore it, so that the scammers don’t waste their resources on the later stages of the scam

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      I’m guessing that once these bots have farmed enough karma, their owners will sell them to other people who will use them for advertising or propaganda.

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      Step 1: Repeat popular comments for a few months to make the account look vaguely like a real person and thus more credible.
      Step 2: Switch bot to spewing propaganda.

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        But would that even work on YouTube? Maybe I have missed something, but can you really tell if an account is “popular” can you even check comment history? Wouldn’t uploading other ppls videos and get subscribers work like you said? And why that name and picture?

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    22 days ago

    Worst is when you report these obvious bot comments and the social media website replies saying it found nothing wrong.

    So annoying.

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      Or in the case of YouTube, where there’s just no feedback, and you go back days later and that stupid bot comment is still there getting upvotes

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    that’s YouTube right? They let these bots roam free and shadow ban half of my legit comments. The most infuriating is when the bot gets more likes than the original comment.

    edit: I just read the comment and noticed this is probably about the new veritasium video.

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      …why are you commenting on YOUTUBE??? You can’t even track how well your comments did, or what your highest rated comments are. Then half the people change their display names, and trying to follow the conversation just becomes a jumbled mess.

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      I guess?

      I’m all for voting reform, promoting easy access to voting for everyone, breaking the grip of the 2 party system, and dismantling junk like the electoral college.

      But we’re a little more than 2 months from a major election. It’s unlikely that these ideas are going to be picked up and championed as campaign promise. So it makes me wonder why they’re being parroted now. I suspect it’s to highlight that our system isn’t always great and discourage people from voting.

      They’re not saying “my vote doesn’t matter”, but that’s kind of the vibe it gives off, while suggesting an unrealistic, idealistic solution. 🤷‍♂️

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        I’ll add in, Ranked Choice is a bad choice. The “edge cases” mentioned in the post can happen in any and every election using the system.

        If Ranked Choice were the only option besides what we have, it would be a slight improvement, but there are far better options.

        STAR is simple, and does everything that RCV claims to do, but actually fails to do.

        Something to keep in mind for the push to reform voting laws after this election.

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      21 days ago

      Was someone who lives in a Democratic country I can say that what your describing is actually called copypasta

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    20 days ago

    What’s even worse that the stolen comment got much more engagement than the original.

    I’ve seen her comments all around YouTube, and this always seems to happen to her. (I’m assuming it’s because they are the most insightful, informative yet still on point.) Don’t give up Barbara, some of us are seeing through the scam and rooting for you!

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    22 days ago

    It’s the same bot of the other post!

    This time the bot accidentally copied a popular comment, usually they copy a comment with no likes, then have other bots to send hundreds of likes to make it prominent over the other and have the algorithm show it more often

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    Calling it “stealing comments” is an interesting way of rewording for what is obviously bot spam.