So I want to live a very safe, secure and peaceful life and I think all of the groups of people I mentioned above will be a threat to it. I want zero involvement with these people. Politicians do all kinds of shady and illegal stuff under the blanket of being people’s representatives. The elite rape and torture people for their own sadistic pleasure. Law enforcement loves to misuse their power to harass, abuse and spoil people’s lives. And, you don’t need an explanation regarding the underworld. How do I protect myself, my family, the ones I love and are near and dear to me from all these horrendous people? I have a normal job, I’m not an activist or advocate for any social cause. I’m a bit above the middle class so I guess you can call me I’m from the upper middle class. How do I live a life where I go zero contact with these people? Thanks!

Edit: Edited to add the serious tag.

  • NutinButNet
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    5 hours ago

    Get shipwrecked on an island. This has been a fantasy of mine. Granted, I have access to the ability to have fresh water and tools to upkeep my life safely and sustainably.

    Though, the “underworld” could get involved in the form of pirates if close enough to a land and seen by the open ocean. Governments could get involved by claiming the island for themselves whether it be because you’re still a citizen or it’s in their jurisdiction or they’re just tyrannical assholes.

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    What you’re talking about is freedom. You want to be free.

    Unfortunately, freedom is a temporary thing that needs to be periodically renewed. It has to be maintained by someone, who does go out and interact with the people who want to control you (namely by fighting them).

    You might get lucky and have others do the fighting for you. But there’s nothing in particular you can do to ensure others will do that fighting.

    The only thing a person can actually get free from is the guilt of not following their conscience. Unfortunately, that requires a lot of committed work.

    Life isn’t easy, and it isn’t meant to be easy. If you lived in nature there would be things trying to eat you 24/7. Society sometimes holds those forces at bay, by creating pockets of freedom, but you can’t create those pockets without doing the sorts of things that put you squarely in the crosshairs of the kinds of organizations you’re referring to.

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    11 hours ago

    Don’t want to be involved with politicians, stay out of politics.

    Don’t want to be involved with the police, follow the laws. Absolutely do not get involved with sovereign citizen bullshit, it is based on nothing and has never worked in a court of law. I mention this because you seem like someone that might be attracted to that, and there’s nothing that’s going to get Johnny Law up in your shit faster than some bullshit “I’m just traveling in a private conveyance license plate I bought off Facebook marketplace.”

    Don’t want to be involved with the underworld… again just follow the law. Mobsters and human traffickers aren’t heading into the suburbs to recruit new operatives.

    Don’t want to be involved with the elite, kinda shit out of luck, they own everything and will squeeze you with all kinds of predatory capitalism. This means you get to pick between hundreds of brands all produced by 3 mega corporations, not that Elon musk rapes your kid in the basement. So basically the same advice, don’t go to billionaire cocktail parties (don’t worry they aren’t inviting you) and you’ll be fine.

    You live in the statistically safest time for a human being to live if you are in the USA. If you consume a bunch of media you’ll get a different impression, but you literally could not pick a safer time to be alive if you are some upper middle class nobody.

    tl;dr - No one gives one wet shit about you, my dude. You aren’t the main character, there isn’t a cabal of politicians and elites and cops and billionaires plotting your destruction. If you are feeling paranoid go seek out mental health support, and do it from a doctor, not Lemmy.

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    I would recommend Denmark, because I have heard that the people there are relatively satisfied with their legal and political system in general and also with their government. Therefore I think your chances are good to get most/all of your wishes there.

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    11 hours ago

    If you mean simply not coming into their spheres, that’s easy. I haven’t all that much either, unless local mayoral matters count, in which I’m next in line.

    If you mean not wanting to even indirectly share the same world as them, I can only recommend moving to a third world country or a Polynesian one. Pitcairn seems like a pretty nice choice that’s looking for more people to move there. Other than that, you got me.

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    Regardless of what you do, the people you love will get hurt, suffer, and die. You’re going to have to let that go, or you’ll be the one suffering. If you want to protect your loved ones, buy insurance.