I’m done, I’ve been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I’ve been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I’ve ever had on any lemmy instance), I’ve had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I’ve had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

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    Lemmy (and reddit to a degree) is not like other social networks where you are lumped into one giant community. It’s many communities, and you’ll find that you are welcome in some and not welcome in others. That includes your politics and your views.

    I don’t think I’d be very welcome in a community of conspiracy nuts, especially when I counter everything they say. I think they would remove me from that community at some point, and that’s okay, self policing of communities is okay. Sometimes you aren’t welcome.

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    I agree, it is impossible to hold a contrarian view in a lot of subs. The mods and the user base on Lemmy have a very narrow range of their views than the spectrum that you find on Reddit. It is basically an echo chamber in a lot of subs.

    The active user base is also soo much smaller that a handful of posters can be seen in certain subs. I see the same people posting over and over at a much higher rate than I saw on Reddit.

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      So are you posting good content to help the issue? Or are you just posting “contrarian” opinions?

      I’ve never had a problem being banned and I argue with Tankies and Right Wing Chuds all the time (well I mostly just block the Chuds). It sounds like your comments are just bad enough to warrant a block.

      I have detailed comments about how both Hamas and the IDF are bad. Here’s one: “Hamas is a criminal organization that is terrible at government. It’s Israel’s fault for letting them grow to be so dangerous. The IDF and Hamas are both bad for the people of Palestine and Israel.”

      No ban!

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        In my experience your views aren’t really contrarian to that of the majority of Lemmy users and mods. Your pretty mainstream and vanilla here.

        Try taking a pro Israel stance or pro 2A stance and see how long it will be until you are banned even if you follow all sub rules.

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          Why would I take a pro-death stance? If you are being dumb, people are going to tell you. Welcome to the real world. Free speech doesn’t mean people have to listen to you.

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    Mastodon’s got some professional machiavellian gaslighters on it, I promise you.

    Until some Fediverse portion grows spine-enough, and methodical-systematic-process-enough, to mitigate the malevolent, then they always will win.

    That’s how Natural Selection works.

    That’s why most natural/wild mammals are filled with parasites & things, in their “utopian heaven”.

    We do have the potential to do better, but it requires a bedrock of spine & uprightness, of carefully blocking malevolence, & not-permitting it to own/torque our world.

    I’ll not “hold my breath” waiting for it.

    Considered-reason’s the toughest position to hold-onto, as ALL ideology/prejudice wants it obliterated, left & right, theist-religion-ideologies & anti-theist-ideologies, ALL want their ideological/prejudice supremacism.

    The Great Filter, it is called: a world-species reaches adult-technology while still fundamentally unconscious-mind toddler.

    Consequences are … “expressed”/enforced.