We need altcoins as long as we interact economically over the net, with people we do not know (or simply with people outside our local communities). If we try to imagine what qualities a “solarpunk coin” should have, what are your thoughts? Do we know any existing coin, checking all boxes? This question is more about political economy of Solarpunk, then its technology.

  • ex_06@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    12 days ago

    Why not just trust people

    I think you are implying a false dichotomy here, like money and trust are opposed. Anyway, trust in people doesn’t scale at all, it’s trust about platforms that can kinda scale. I do not trust a random person on the other side of the ocean i’ve never seen but if we use paypal and ebay i can kinda trust those 2 platforms

    • dillekant@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      10 days ago

      like money and trust are opposed

      OK let’s say you owe me a dollar and I just remember that. How is an altcoin superior to you trusting me?

      trust in people doesn’t scale at all

      So you do think it’s a real dichotomy?

      but if we use paypal and ebay i can kinda trust those 2 platforms

      If they are paying paypal, you are leveraging paypal to create a threat of violence on them. That’s not very Solarpunk of you.

      • ex_06@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        10 days ago

        If they are paying paypal, you are leveraging paypal to create a threat of violence on them. That’s not very Solarpunk of you.

        This message is very ironic after having watched just yesterday the sociology lesson about socialization.

        First you express that threats of violence are bad and then you express yourself a threat of violence to me. Because violence is actually used at every level to enforce rules and norms. Your attempt of relying to the menace of getting (at idealism level) kicked from the solarpunks is violence itself.

        It’s not very solarpunk to immediately rely on violence while discussing ideas :P

        So you do think it’s a real dichotomy?

        I can trust people without trusting their, and mine, ability to remember everything. When a friend lends me money (trusting that I won’t just take them and ghost them), I keep a txt for every time I give back part of the money. Not because we don’t trust each other and are scared to steal to each other but because we are humans and don’t want to keep everything in the active memory of the brain when we can just write it down.

        It’s a tool that has some functions on the microsociologic level and others at the macro one. On a macro one, yes trust can be a part of it if the platform bears some of the refunds part etc.