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        There are people who never touch anything but the browser and email. For them the SSD keeping some page files is good enough

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          That’s no justification for selling a >$1,000 MacBook Pro with only 8GB of RAM, though. It’s specifically marketed as a professional-class machine.

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      3 months ago

      And it’s not RAM, it’s UM for an SoC. The usage of memory changed with the introduction of Apple Silicon.

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        “Unified” only means there’s not a discrete block for the CPU and a discrete block for the GPU to use. But it’s still RAM- specifically, LPDDR4x (for M1), LPDDR5 (for M2), or LPDDR5X (for M3).

        Besides, low-end PCs with integrated graphics have been using unified memory for decades- no one ever said “They don’t have RAM, they have UM!”

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          Yes, that’s true, but it’s still an indicator of an uninformed reporter.

          Apple Silicon chips pass data from one dedicated cores directly to another without the need of passing through memory, hence the smaller processor cache. There are between 18 and 58 cores in the M3 (model dependent). The architecture works very differently than the conventional CPU/GPU/RAM model.

          I can run FCP and Logic Pro and have memory to spare with 16GB of UM. The only thing that pushes me into swap is Chrome. lol

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            It’s a pointless distinction.

            And in this case, it makes 8gig look even worse.

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              Maybe you’re not familiar with the apps I’m referring to. Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro are professional video and audio workstations.

              If I tried to master an export from Adobe Premiere Pro in Protools on PC I’d need 32GB of RAM to to prevent stutter. I only use ~12GB of 16GB doing the same on Apple Silicon.

              8GB of UM is not for someone running two pro apps at once. It’s for grandma to use for online banking and check her email and Facebook.

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            it’s still an indicator of an uninformed reporter.

            My dude, you’re literally in here arguing that because Apple has a blob for both CPU memory and GPU memory that somehow makes that blob “not RAM.” Apple’s design might give fantastic performance, but that’s irrelevant to the fact that the memory on the chip is RAM of known and established standards.

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      Have you used an 8 gig ARM Mac?

      I’m pretty brutal on my machines, and if my 8 gig m1 really only starts to beach ball when multiple accounts are open, and those accounts all have bloated multimedia software running.

      My 16 gig machines can handle that use case fine, but the 8 gig machine will occasionally beach ball.

      Personally, I won’t buy an 8 gig config again. But I’m a fucking monster that leaves a million bloated things open across multiple active user sessions.