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  • I think you can also see something fundamentally positive in the critical attitude of many Lemmy users: namely the fact that criticism of undesirable developments in politics, society, the economy and so on is practiced here at all. In my opinion, this is important and should not be taken for granted. If only because it is impossible for so many people in numerous countries around the world to express their opinions freely and criticize their governments or powerful people in their society.

    In any case, I think that a certain fundamental skepticism towards the existing power structures in politics, media and business is something of a unifying element that motivates many people to participate in Fediverse, after all, this platform is an alternative to the centrally managed social media providers and their functional logics.

    Nevertheless, I think your post is important because it shows that all the negativity that goes hand in hand with a critical examination of the numerous problems in the real world is extremely off-putting for many users. This is of course problematic both for the mass appeal of the Fediverse and to a certain degree probably also for the mental health of the user base.

    Unfortunately, I don’t have an answer as to how to deal with this in a meaningful way. However, I try to stay positive and hope for the best.









  • I’m not sure whether there can be an ideologically neutral social media platform at all. I think there will always be a significant proportion of users who are not interested in discussion, arguments and open minded exchange, but rather in seeing their world view confirmed by others or simply being part of a perceived in-group.

    What’s more, the sheer mass of content makes an attention economy necessary so that one can deal with this flood of information. In my opinion, the content that is easy to consume will always prevail over content that looks at a topic in all its complexity (hardly anyone is willing/has the time to read up on it). So it’s often not about who has the better arguments or actually knows something about a topic, but about who sells their posts better. In this sense, it seems to me that social media in general is not really social, but to a large extent a competition for attention.

    I am not aware of any platform that could solve these problems. In my opinion, this is not really the aim, as pretty much all platforms are not really about objective information, but rather about passing the time and entertainment. Of course, that doesn’t mean that you can’t find good discussions and serious information. But I think that this kind of content will never be the main focus of any social media plattform. The fediverse approach seems like a good try to me tho, because there can be “special interest instances” that can make their own rules to focus on whatever they are about.







  • I’m all about discussion. But there can’t be much of a discussion if the one you talking to just says no to any given argument. That would be like Karen telling me no when I try to explain to her that the earth is not flat. She could downvote that statement but I’d really like Karen to elaborate on why she thinks I’m wrong and she is right. Don’t you see that Karen takes your position on this one? What I’m getting at is that with your downvote you don’t explain anything. Pls have the decency to elaborate.



  • No one reads any guidelines even if there were any. Do I up- or downvote in this community if I agree to a statement? I just think it would be helpful to know why a post meets so much rejection or consent. I of course get that Lemmy is a reddit clone. But do we really need to make it all the same? I don’t think that the most upvoted post on the frontpage is the best post or most usefull in that timeframe. It’s just the most upvoted post for a majority of people that do not contribute much but up- and downvotes. This is a Lurker-centric system. But I don’t think that there are enough contributors that they would put up with this (+ there are no benefits to do so whatsoever). I just think the merrits of a social media site is it’s content. I don’t feel that there is much appreciation on here for that.





  • It’s prolly best to not repost any AI images to any communities that are not specifically about that. At least that’s my understanding - that’s why I don’t post this stuff anywhere else. I just try to contribute something to Lemmy besides screenshots of other social media sites or old memes that I saved from reddit or elsewhere. I don’t have too much to offer but some cleaned up AI Images tho. This doesn’t seem to meet the standard for non-AI-communities. So I don’t even bother anymore. Where should the content be coming from, you might ask. Well, I dunno. I guess that all the downvoting people surely must know the answer to that.


  • I agree. But unfortunately it’s utopian to assume that the majority of users would go through the trouble to justify their downvotes (or upvotes) - that’s simply too much to ask, even of Lemmy. People here are like everywhere else: they want to be entertained and express their opinion, but under no circumstances do they want to take any effort because that would be too time-consuming and therefore unreasonable. For most people, this is all that they are ever willig to contribute to the Internet. Not too much if you ask me, but apperently it’s enough for any Social Media Site. Your Post is a good example: Noone explained why they disagree but they still downvote your post and think themselfs very smart for it. It’s sad imo.