Hopefully people will start going back to independent forums. Google just added a “forums” tab at the top of their search, so they seem to want that too. It’s not good for them that so much information is private on chat programs like Discord, other big social media sites, and concentrated on Reddit.
Lemmy never shows up in search results for me despite some instances having good domain authority, but more people should start using it when it starts showing up.
I use Ecosia instead of Google, but I know that Google recently added a “forums” category to the top of their search. Have you tried that? Hopefully it will help bring back to life independent forums.
I’m wondering, is this still your opinion?
I’ve been thinking about updating that blog post but I’m not sure where to add the updates.
I just added a bunch of updates and info at the bottom to help people who are new to the fediverse. Thanks for the nudge.
Yes, I think so.
There are public instances: https://searx.space/
This is one someone previously suggested, and the one I tried that seems to work well: https://search.disroot.org/ - I see it’s not in the list above though. Not sure why.
I’ve been testing other search engines, and I found that SearX/SearXNG and Mojeek both turn up results for smaller websites that Google puts in 50th place for the exact title of the website/page.
About the votes, it might have been because of the opinion I quoted above.
Na, I don’t think people on lemmy are that averse to criticisms of the UI, features, etc. And by “astroturfed” I don’t mean “my thread was downvoted”. The thread was flooded with hostile comments making personal attacks, etc., most of which completely ignored the substance of the blog post. Virtually the entire thread was filled with comments along the lines of “How dare you attack reddit, you are [insert random ad hominem]”.
All the comments making personal attacks on me were greatly upvoted, and other reasonable and on-topic comments were downvoted. There was a delay before it occurred, and then all the comments were up/downvoted the same amount, and new ones met the same fate, so there was clearly a group of people who were notified about the thread at some point who then continually monitored it and voted on new comments.
I guess at the time the mods removed your blog post by mistake, because they didn’t expect personal blogs here.
I doubt that. But if that’s the case, that’s horrible moderation that they would allow all the personal, off-topic attacks against me and then “remove the post by mistake because they didn’t expect personal blogs”. They should have removed most of the comments in that thread and banned the users.
I’ve had a better experience with the reddit@lemmy.ml community so far. I’ve seen lots of criticisms of lemmy.ml, and even attempts to [dishonestly] attack the .ml developers. I wonder how much of that is from the same group/type of people who just want to cause problems and make people leave lemmy. I wonder if the reason I experienced it less on the lemmy.ml comm is because those users are banned there, and that’s why they’re spreading FUD about lemmy.ml.
I really dislike the bloated UI they’re all using, but it looks like there are solutions on the way.
I’m wondering, is this still your opinion?
I’ve gotten used to it and I like that many instances default to a dark mode. I used to use the old.instance UI, but I think I ran into problems with it and ended up just using the standard Lemmy UI.
Regarding lemmy being complicated, I’ve mostly learned how it works and I definitely think it’s the #1 reddit-alternative at the moment, and the most promising option for the future as well. Along with independent forums of course.
I also set up a Mastodon account, but unfortunately most people are still using Twitter. I also petitioned the Xenforo developers to join the fediverse, and I like that other forum software like Discourse, etc., are joining the fediverse. I definitely think federation is the future.
I’ve been thinking about updating that blog post but I’m not sure where to add the updates.
I agree. The best option now is to look for specific sources of trustworthy reviews.
Regarding rtings, the two monitors I purchased myself had completely different results from the monitor RTINGS showed. What does that say? RTINGS is totally unreliable? I got ridiculously unlucky? https://hardforum.com/threads/why-are-ips-monitors-popular-the-ips-glow-ruins-a-third-of-the-screen-along-with-any-color-advantage-it-may-have.2032852/post-1045814690
I agree about reddit, but unfortunately, I don’t think lemmy is free from astroturfing. Myself and others have noticed that there are many users on lemmy who seem to be purposefully antagonistic towards other lemmy users. The possible reason may be to drive people away from lemmy and hinder its growth.
I’ve experienced pro-reddit astroturfing on lemmy. I posted this criticism of reddit on the reddit@lemmy.world comm, and it was heavily astroturfed and then deleted by the mod for a bogus reason.
A year later, someone used that post to attack me while insinuating purely from the title that I was at fault because the reddit admins would never do something like that (despite all the public information to the contrary).
Something similar, that you can (and should) get involved in: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/the-fda-and-fmt-regulation-part-2-jul-2024-humanmicrobes-org-i-met-wit.520/#post-1370
That’s how it’s always worked??? The fediverse button goes to the canonical source
Maybe it didn’t exist on posts but only comments? I see it on your comment but not the OP/thread.
Exact kind of troll, low-quality comment that poisons most of this website. As is the reply by FuglyDuck.
I have the exact same frustration. Reddit has been a complete mess for years. Unfortunately, Lemmy is only slightly better, and still seems to be astroturfed and filled with overconfident, unintelligent people who spread misinformation. I shared the link above on one of the /c/reddit lemmy communities and it was heavily astroturfed and then deleted by a mod for a ridiculous reason.
I posted in various other communities about a completely different topic and the only intelligent response I received was a PM.
I’ve blocked close to a hundred “fluff” (low-quality) communities on Lemmy, so my feed is highly curated. But the fluff/low-quality communities vastly outnumber the high-quality ones. One of the problems may simply be that intelligent people are rare, and are not spending their time on sites like Lemmy.
People keep making threads about this, and speculating that Lemmy might be astroturfed by people who don’t want to see it succeed. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a viable solution. You would need extremely competent and active moderators, or we have to wait until AI becomes advanced enough to neutrally and accurately moderate.
This is one reason I opted to move my Reddit communities to a forum instead of Lemmy. The problem with that is small forums don’t show up on search engines. Some forum software teams are joining the fediverse though, so that should help. But not all forums have intelligent people either, so it’s definitely a struggle to find these days.
Not sure if this was it, but I tried again a day later and I didn’t select “english”, I left it as undefined, and it worked.
Doesn’t that mean that docker containers use up much more resources since you’re installing numerous instances & versions of each program like mumble and leftpad?
Doesn’t that mean that docker containers use up much more resources since you’re installing numerous instances & versions of each program like PHP?
It seems like it would be difficult to keep track of all the instances that have/haven’t banned the communities/instances you’re interested in.
Like if someone wanted to move to an instance that hasn’t banned these piracy communities, how would they even know where to look?
EDIT: I found this:
Awesome Lemmy Instances has a list where you can see how many instances block/are blocked by each other https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
There’s a github issue request to solve this: