I live in France, and my parents (both teachers in highschool) bought one 10 years ago. It is an old one (built in the 1980s), lots of work to had to be done but they could afford it on a 10 years mortgage.
Harbour is about 4k/year, wich is definitely not nothing and lots of people can’t afford it, but they manage.

Idk how it is where you live, but from what I’ve seen, on most of Northern Europe coasts (France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden) it’s far from impossible to own a nice sailboat even when you’re not really rich.
Sailboats from the 80s-90s with some work to do would range from the 30-35k for 10-11 meters to 60-70k for up to 15 meters. Of course, if you want to have the most recent one and if you can’t/don’t want to do most of the repairs yourself, it’s another story.
It may have something to do with our sailing culture from the 70s-80s, where lots of people actually built their sailboats to go and travel the world.

And just to be clear, I’m not saying it’s easy and everyone can do it. Lots of working class people can barely make ends meet, so owning a boat wouldn’t be possible. But in Europe, it’s not reserved for the super rich either.

I love orcas and the idea that some of them are doing something because we pissed them off is really sexy.

But a 15-ish meters sailboat is not a yacht, far from there, and in Europe a lot of people who sail are working class (more teachers and engineers than uber drivers or cleaning crews, but still far from rich).
In this case, the crew consisted of two members of the Ocean Care NGO. The crew members and the NGO stated that they didn’t blame the orcas and didn’t see there an agression from them but believed more in a kind of game because the orcas noticed boats can be rocked and find it fun.

Let’s eat the rich ourselves, they are much more our responsability than the orca’s.

In France we treat our prisoners like utter shit. If they way you treat the people you have power over is an important marker of civilization/democracy (and I believe it is), we fail this test real hard.

That being said, the tribunal has to specifically add to the prison sentence an exclusion from the right to vote. Iirc, about 25k prisoners (among the 75 or 80k total) have been deprived from the right to vote during their sentence.

Voting from prison in France is complicated,there are 3 options afaik:

• you can delegate your vote to someone on the outside
• you can resquest a “day off” to go to the polls
• since 2019 you can vote by correspondance

The “can I please go out to vote” has to be approved by the warden, and dosen’t happen much.
Delegating your vote isn’t always easy either, prison has a tendancy to isolate people from their former close ones.
The correspondance vote is recent and seems like the best of the three. In 2017 (presidential electio ), less than 2% of imprisoned people had voted. In the 2022 presidential election, more than 20% of them did.

So far, voting logistics and the feeling that society doesn’t want you has imo prevented far more people to vote than the “you can’t vote for the next x years” addendum to sentences.

And while the objecrifying comment pretending to be funny has 45 upvotes at that time, you were at -1 when I saw your post.
Lemmy is imo better than reddit, but alas the intersection between privacy-conscious people and men who refuse to educate themselves is a big one.
Thanks for your comment, I was happy to read you!

Do refunds actually happen in these cases?

And what’s the point of your comment, apart for trying to spark a controversy out of nowhere?

Why are you so intent on giving them s**t about their licensing of their comments?
They cause harm to no one, they feel better because doing so is relevant to them.

I might be wrong, but your question seems asked in bad faith: I am under tbe impression that most people on lemmy servers have at least a basic understanding of the privacy and copyright infringements of the training of AI models.

Their will to license their comment probably has little to do with the very unlikely individual actions you describe and more to do with data licensing from big corporate entities.

Not at all. OP seems to mistake socialism and authoritarism.

From the wikipedia page:

The UAE is an authoritarian federal monarchy. According to The New York Times, the UAE is “an autocracy with the sheen of a progressive, modern state”. The UAE has been described as a “tribal autocracy” where the seven constituent monarchies are led by tribal rulers in an autocratic fashion. There are no democratically elected institutions, and there is no formal commitment to free speech. According to human rights organisations, there are systematic human rights violations, including the torture and forced disappearance of government critics.

I believe you’ll struggle to find actual socialist thinkers endorse this kind of government.

you’re projecting your own thought processes onto something that has the brain capacity of a plywood door

Well, research begs to differ. Although I couldn’t find anything on the brain capacity of plywood doors, sheeps and cows definitely have some form of conscience and the ability to feel emotions and pain.
A litterature review conducted and published by Lori Marino and Kristin Allen (The psychology of cows, 2017) concludes that cows:

• are able to make sophisticated discriminations among not only objects but humans
• possess not just simple emotions but several emotional capacities, such as cognitive judgement bias and emotional contagion
• show an apparent emotionnal reaction to learning which may reflect a sense of self-agency similar to other mammals
• have distinct personalities
• exhibit several dimensions of social complexity, including social learning

Do you know how much a fucking cow is worth? 😂 Farmers are the tightest gits on earth, they’re not out there torturing their profits mate

Idk how much it’s worth, but I guess it’s a lot. I also know how financially difficult the situation of small-estate farmers is (several commit suicide every month in my country).
I got a question for you: do you know how much milk a cow would produce for its farmer if it wasn’t repeatedly impregnated and separated from its offspring ? The answer is much less than currently. And that would put farmers in even greater jeopardy than they already are.
I don’t believe that most farmers voluntarily hurt their animals and enjoy it. But in my experience, most of them come from a culture in which the intelligence and emotions of cattle is being negated and we collectively make sure it stays this way because we don’t want to face the incredible amount of suffering we inflict on hundreds of millions of sentient beings every year.

If you Google “Un agriculteur accusé de maltraitance animale” you’ll find a lot of articles, which means that the laws against the abuse are working

If you Google “L214 videos” you’ll see a lot of horrific things happening in farms and In slaughterhouses which are still in operation without any additional oversight. There are laws, and sure some stuff is illegal and frowned upon, but it’s leagues away from preventing cattle abuse.

I’m from rural France btw, and I’ve lived where we produce this “cultural delicacy” called foie-gras, which is still very legal and celebrated as fuck.

TIL about efilism, thanks!

Wow, this escalated towards cannibalism quickly.

The original comment stated that France has good laws against animal abuse. That’s very partially true: a few animals have a priviledged status (cats and dogs for exemple) and are somewhat protected against abuse while others are abused, tortured and killed everyday without any kind of protection.

I’m not commenting for any cause here, just pointing out stuff we collectively overlook.
I don’t think we should pat ourselves on the shoulder saying “wow we’re so good at fighting animal abuse” while our food habits rely on unnecessary mass cruelty.
And yes, it’s uncomfortable to look at - that’s why we’re used to ignoring it - but pretending it’s not real does not change the facts.

It’s not like we daily torture and kill animals to eat meat, eggs and dairy. But sure, cats are cute so we protect them.

USAonce again looking for units not used by anyone else /j

Frostpunk isn’t really good for my anxiety ^^