We need to figure out what to call him now, I guess. Can’t call him Prince Andrew. How about “Handsy Andy, Duke of Diddleshire?”

What an incredible smell you’ve discovered. It may smell bad, kid but it’ll keep you warm.

Ohhh sorry when you said “we’re not him” I thought you meant Zohran Mamdani, not Trump. The dem leadership are not thrilled about Mamdani and I though that was what you were referring to.

I’m not sure I follow. You mean if they win next year? Because right now they should only be thinking “he won by a landslide… maybe what he’s doing can work.”

He’s saying “good, let them enact their terrible policies and then everyone will see how bad they are, dooming them forever.”

This is a ballsy thing to say while Trump’s policies are currently lighting our future on fire, and when the Democratic platform consistently has more popular policies in it.

What is it exactly that you think I agreed with?

And yes, son, we’re all aware of how the post history works. Stop posting pictures and be specific. Your credibility is zero with me and I’m not going to strain to pull your point out of a screenshot.

And suggesting she staged her own sexual assault is not holding a leader’s actions to a higher degree of scrutiny. It’s a disgusting accusation in a long tradition of discrediting female victims.

Your position is as ludicrous today as it was yesterday. But at least today you seem to realize that it needs defending. Nothing you wrote here is remotely convincing. You’re manufacturing the appearance of circumstantial evidence at absolute best and straining through a heap of passive sexism to do it. But at least trying to explain yourself is progress from your lame attempt at haughtiness in the other thread. Eat shit, y’all.

Yep. If people don’t like DEI programs, they could always, you know, just treat women better.

I’m glad you don’t automatically dismiss that she was actually assaulted (!!!) I mean that’s pretty much the bare minimum everyone should do. This was captured on video. You can view it for yourself. Her guards did intervene, just a step too late. That does not mean she staged it for attention.

But everyone would love to feel smart and come up with some alternative theory of what happened rather than contend with the sordid facts.

Yes, thank you. It’s less overt of an assault on women then physically groping them, but it’s perhaps more insidious, because an environment of ignore-and-excuse puts ALL women everywhere at risk

It’s not about blindly believing all women all the time. It’s about believing them by default, and as you say, taking them seriously. In this case they were willing to discard the evidence of their eyes in favor of some pretty far fetched conspiracy theory, and considered anyone who didn’t agree to be some naive idiot. And they paradoxically claimed to take sexual assault very seriously, while doing this. SMH

In another thread about this episode people were saying the entire incident was staged by her to distract from other news. I got downvoted to hell for suggesting that it was anti-woman to believe such a conspiracy theory rather than acknowledge that a woman got groped.

The fact that she’s pressing charges should put the conspiracy theory to bed. Why would she take it into a courtroom for more attention if it was just a stunt to manipulate the press that week? I’m sure someone will double down on conspiracy theories to come up with an answer to that question…

The actual trigger is when someone influential decides “this is far enough - I’m pulling my money out before it all vanishes.” This doesn’t have to be such a dire thing - investors are constantly saying “this is enough, I’ve done well in this, time to take the profits and move my money elsewhere.”

Others see the influential figure doing that and begin to get scared. Many follow. And this becomes a chain reaction when the market at large sees this trend. If it’s enough people, and there’s enough doubt looming out there, it will chain and take the entire market down. If there’s not, it will stabilize. Small corrections happen all the time.

It’s a very basic human thing. If you were in a room and everyone else in it suddenly screamed and ran away you would follow them and figure out why later.

It’s a good step. We need to see action now. I think the reaction from the rest of the country is not encouraging that this is the falling of small stones that will start an avalanche. Not yet. Let’s see him govern and let’s see others like him step up.

I’m actually terrified by religious people and their unshakeable belief that everything’s gonna be okay because Sky Daddy will fix it and if we destroy the world well that’s just accelerating His plan so it’s all good.

Concerned about the consequences of our actions? Here just take some opiate-of-the-masses and chill out.

Completely inventing your own reality, freeform… I made my argument clear and plain. You declined to respond to it, and then declared victory. An impressive level of delusion.

You couldn’t debate it if you tried. But your lack of trying is noted.

I’m saying that men have groped women many orders of magnitude more frequently and Occam’s razor should apply. You can turn this into a false flag conspiracy and blame the woman who got groped, on zero evidence Just don’t claim you’re serious about women’s issues if you do. You can’t have it all.

The hand breaking could absolutely be doled out judicially. He didn’t say it should be done without due process.

One cannot simultaneously say that it’s a serious issue and then dismiss an incidence of it, plain to see on camera, with a conspiracy theory.