Cheers bud

Fair enough. And I’ll give you the vs fat part. It was unfair for me to say anyway - what was in my head when I said it was that a pound of fat is considered worth 3500 kcal, which is more energy than most things in a body. It was a shit argument that mixed points.

Overall, I think my issue is just with the simple statement that “muscles are inefficient”.

The way I interpreted that statement is that “muscles waste energy”, since that’s all the context I could get from those words. I see muscles as super efficient, just like anything else in the body in that they do as little as possible compared to what is demanded. I view that type of laziness as ultimate efficiency.

Through the rest of the thread I got little additional context, so I kept on keeping on.

I still think the op of this thread didn’t get his point across very well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2980962/

Heart & kidneys > brain > liver > skeletal muscle > adipose muscle

Pound for pound. But they all are efficient, which still goes against the original thesis

Then muscles are as efficient as they can be. They use as little energy as they need. They require energy to do things, just like everything else in your body. But they will only be as big/strong as required, nothing more - which is, believe it or not - efficiency.

Aside from fat. Or the brain. Or other organs

So from what context are we using the word “efficiency”?

Because from a muscle’s view, it is as efficient as possible. It grows and atrophies based on what is required of it. This is my problem with the main post: muscles are inefficient.

They aren’t, full stop. A muscle will be as efficient as possible - be as small and use as little energy as possible - to handle the regular tasks given.

If you are speaking from a holistic view of a human who decides what goals to set, whether it is useful to simply have large muscles for aesthetic reasons, then sure. Yeah. Big muscles burn more energy and aren’t needed to survive. I’d still say that’s not what efficiency is, but I’d concede there.

What? If a muscle was inefficient, it would use more resources than it needed to no matter what its task was. This would result in larger muscles than needed - simply because “why not?” Use the resources.

By being as small and effective as possible for their normal tasks, they are as efficient as possible. That’s why if you stop working out - their normal tasks reduce - they get smaller and weaker.

Muscles rise to the lowest amount of strength possible. I’d argue that all parts of a body are as efficient as possible, because that’s how life usually works.

inefficient

Shouldn’t that be “efficient”? They will adapt to the minimal required strength for whatever the standard is.

I didn’t think I was being an asshole. The questions I asked were genuine, and I think I was pretty neutral with pointing out how OP shares blame in the situation they are in.

And, through all that, i summed it up with how silly this whole situation is - especially when you look at how OP is responding in the thread. This comes across as a “look at me, I did something good, tell me how nice I am” post. Given the rest of the situations context, just ugh.

This is silly to me. So you’re happy working for free at a private company, but not a public one? The fact that them going public was known for a while was fine? The lack of care they showed you as a private company while taking the shitty concrete steps to go public were all fine?

If yu want to take a hard look at your role, when the last revolt during the API changes happened, the revolt failed because mods like you wouldn’t stand up. So it’s funny to me to see what the “final straw” is for you, because in the grand scheme of things, it seems like nothing.

I certainly don’t understand why you would move to another place in the Internet and announce this silly view.

God said do/don’t do a thing. Person didn’t listen. Person is punished.