EU absolutely is a country.

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    Danish person here.

    Yes. Ban Google, Meta, X and all the rest. Let’s use a bit of EU funds to fund a privacy respecting social media that is NOT controlled by the US or China.

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    Considering they’re being actively and without denial used to fuck us over, yes. I’m not going to play the censorship card. The US is now no better than Russia, there’s no reason we should treat them better. US platforms are now literally an offensive weapon, Musk already started riots over fake news and is directly and openly meddling in our politics. This shit needs to stop. Just like we blocked RT news, this needs to go.

    It’s in the same vein like Trump threatening military action against Greenland. Trump is literally committing extortion under the treat of war. The US is an actively hostile nation that targets everyone including their own allies. Like what the actual fuck? How did we get here? We need to decouple from the US as soon as possible. I’d go as far as compare the US to a ravid animal on the international stage, I’m absolutely mortified by what’s going on.

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    Twitter is not a social media anymore, it is a propaganda platform. There are regulations for media in civilized places. Twitter does not respect the law, thus it shall be banned.

    If it were up to me it would be seized, because there is a public interest to this platform. Seizing it to make the algorithm transparent, fair and legal.

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      I really hope the EU will ban it, but I’m afraid they will ask firmly for “some changes”, and claim victory over whatever “small change” is in reality. Their investigation took too long and the lead was replaced already. Then they will declare that “recent events and information were not taken in account” and go on for another N years of investigations.

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        Sadly, the EU recently did exactly the opposite, by taking Twitter off the DMA VLOPs list for lack of a large business user base dependent on its services.

        Practically Musk cratered it in order to snap off of what he sees as shackles.

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    As a Canadian, yes please. Their culture infiltrates ours so much that there are some people who believe in the American superiority and don’t understand that we’re two different peoples, with very different approaches to how we should live and treat others. Obviously, we Canadians are not perfect, and we have more in common than not but it’s disheartening to hear Canadians (including people in my own inner circle) view our country as nothing but the USA’s little bitch.

    I get the world is sliding right, and our political pendulum definitely swings. But I worry that in the efforts to acknowledge the harms that we’ve done (and currently do) to people in our own country, that the backlash to those policies and acknowledgments will cause us to lose things that I’m proud of and freedoms that I enjoy.

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      I agree, I worked a Canadian election years ago and a voter left the booth to ask me how to vote for a particular American political party because they couldn’t find it on the ballot. I imagine things have only gotten worse since then.

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    For-profit social media, certainly. I don’t trust it anymore. Astroturfing, data-harvesting, I feel like they’re all made to fuck us over in some way.

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    I didn’t need a ban. They enshitified and I moved on. All Meta apps (including WhatsApp) gone. X/Twitter gone. LinkedIn gone. Reddit gone.

    Now I use Lemmy, Mastodon/BlueSky, and Signal.

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        I’m not American.

        A ban would fix a lot of problems. But only because the platforms moderate things to match the platform owners opinions.

        Platforms enabling free speech are beneficial.

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          A ban would fix a lot of problems.

          I think a ban would cause a lot of problems too. it’s not cut and dry and banning a social media platform is the “nuclear” option

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    I heard there is talk of a projects for the EU to increase its digital sovereignty. Now would be a great time for those projects to come to fruition.

    As for me, if this means that there’ll be an EU-wide reboot of Hyves, I’d be thrilled. Extra so if, on the back-end, it works on a Federated system.

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    I didn’t use to, and I am generally against limiting access to any sort of source of information. But the last few years have convinced me otherwise - the owners of these platforms are willing to destroy our way of life for their own personal benefit. Fuck Zuck. Fuck Musk. Fuck all of these charlatans and conmen.

    Edit: oh, and the EU isn’t a country (yet), it’s a supranational organization which presents unique challenges in terms of policy. Def not a country

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    I am a big proponent of free speech and the merits of free access to information.

    Or at least I was. I’ve always known that bad actors with control over your information input can do an awful lot of damage. I used to think free and open access was the best choice. But seeing how a few companies captured the entire social media environment and have swollen to near-total monopolies and then how those same companies have shown themselves to be bad actors with malicious intent I have changed my opinion. Banning them would help slow down the flow of info sewage into the EU and encourage more competing companies to form. We need that since the EU can’t break up American companies. So if new companies were ever to be competitive we need to remove the giants from the pool and commit to breaking up any that get too big.

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      Yeah. We hate our social media, and don’t trust our government. Everyone else should absolutely ban our social media, yesterday, if not sooner.

      Edit: And in response to lots of much more reasonable responses here, than mine: spot on!

      The real wisdom is to ban our (United States) shitty social media’s shitty behaviors, rather than playing platform bop-a-mole.