Scrappy Doo
That yappy little fucker ruined things.
I know it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. I can see every flaw people are saying as well. It’s kind of my guilty pleasure.
2 1/2 Men: Multiple stages really.
Jake getting older and the addition of his friend.
Alan turned from a down on his luck guy to blundering comic relief. It has its funny moments, but there is a lot of cringe to be had in that change.
Replacement of Charlie with Ashton. I know the crazy behind it. That said, he makes it completely unwatchable. He doesn’t carry nearly the same energy that Sheen does. The same dynamic doesn’t exist between him and Alan, character wise.
They dialed Alan’s blundering to 1000% after Charlie left.
Pointless baby/pregnancy every time!
At least Brooklyn 99 saved it for near the end, thank god.
this, Dexter season 3 in a nutshell
Even worse in Bones. Devoutly childfree woman becomes pregnant and then goes completely baby crazy. How insulting.
Well… the executive producer wanted changes in the show. Particularly when she was actual pregnant and didn’t want to hide it on set or screen. Gotta say though, I respected her for having typically body changes of a women going through pregnancies and not trying to blur it all out.
Did they at least point out that she had two sets of skeletons inside her? If not, missed opportunity for Bones
That’s when I stopped watching the Office.
X-Files is kinda shit after Mulder is replaced by Dogget.
I think Doggett was in a handful of good Monster-of-The-Week episodes, but at that point the the series had gotten way too dumb that Mulder couldn’t have really made it much better. I think the series was way too in love with its own mythology, which was, frankly, pretty mediocre. The mytharc had become so diluted and silly that I just can’t watch most of those episodes anymore, even before it got bad
X-Files was kinda shit LONG before Dogget comes into the picture.
Dogget at least has some character development, doesn’t hold a candle to Mulder though and definitely not saying he’s a good character, but what really got me was the Agent NoPersonality, Monica Reyes. (I had to look up her name) She doesn’t do anything, she doesn’t have any kind of development, she doesn’t add anything and she’s just so boring and cookiecutter. No chemistry with Dogget either. I had actually forgotten she exists until I rewatched the entire series recently.
The only good scene with her was Scully teaching her to run in heels.
I have been a huge X-Files fan since the show was first released and I still have not seen the last few Dogget episodes because I just can’t.
When it actually happened, I stopped watching it. Never seen bothered with an ep after that.
Not the addition of a character but a complete rewrite of a character on Police Cops. Max Power was such a dashing cool cop for the pilot but soon after they rewrote him to be a fat bumbling oaf…
Wasn’t the cool cop named Homer Simpson in the pilot, who then became an idiot laughing stock, causing people also named Homer Simpson to change their name to Max Power, after a hairdryer?
And that’s the end of that case.
uh-oh, spaghetti-o’s
Also wasn’t he originally written as being independently wealthy? I think that aspect was also lost in the character transition.
Yup, from rich ladies man to slob, and he didn’t even have the excuse of having kids! He had three money no kids!
Upvoted for the much appreciated Simpsons reference
Connor on Angel. His arc was pretty damn painful to sit though, and lasted nearly two seasons.
Almost quit when Dawn was introduced into Buffy
I’m going to disagree with Dawn. I feel like she was the one addition that really worked: the ballsy gaslighting that turned out to be a retcon and her being central to the plot actually sold her for me.
Plus I grew up on Pete and Pete so I was already a Michelle Trachtenberg fan.
I should have clarified that in the end I think adding Dawn as a character was great for Buffy, but initially, I hated the idea.
That was the point though - they deliberately made her obnoxious af and pushed it in a way that would put the viewers on the back foot before pulling the rug.
Connor was just a disaster. Even the actor hated the whiny little shit
I’m not going to say “Ruined”, but Farscape was significantly degraded by the introduction of Grazer.
Scorpius is one of the greatest antagonists ever written for a TV show. I don’t think what they chose to do with him was a terrible idea, it’s good to shake things up. But as a replacement as the primary antagonist, Grazer absolutely sucks. The fact that they literally gave her mind control sex pheromones that she spreads from her boobs genuinely sounds like the sort of thing that belongs in a bad porn parody. Like, that is “Horny fourteen year old” levels of bad writing.
Thankfully the one season she’s a big deal for is still perfectly enjoyable, and the show sticks the landing pretty decently with Peacekeeper Wars, so don’t let this deter anyone from giving it a look. Like all nineties and noughties TV, it’s got a lot of ups and downs, but all in all its a really fun show.
Goddamn Felicity in Arrow pissed me off. That show grew to have a lot of problems, but she was an especially terrible part of it.
That reminds me of all the Olibur memes.
Once I figured out the plot to every season I stopped watching.
A lies to B to protect them. Something happens to B because they didn’t know the truth. Truth comes out anyway. Reconciliation. Rinse. Repeat.
Smallville did what?
Yea, this for me as well. When season 3 started I felt the writing was off and kinda fell off for a while thinking I’d catch up later. Once I finally got around to it, the Arrow subreddit had completely morphed into a Daredevil sub as some kind of protest to just how bad it had gotten so I just never went back.
Season 4 or something when it turned into
DawsonFelicitys Creek with masks is when I jumped ship to the rest of the Arrowverse.
When I was a kid, I don’t think I kept watching Rugrats for very much longer after they added Dil.
Neelix made me eventually quit watching Star Trek Voyager. Too much cringe.
there was a episode, where tuvok was either daydreaming or had a holideck program on , where he was strangling neelix, and everyone was clapping.
Great show if you skip / fast forward his scenes.
Have you ever seen avenue5? Neelix was apparently supposed to be a lot more like Spike before they went jar jar
They realised and made him Tuvix for a bit.
Near from death note. Man what a fucking downgrade.
I will get hate for this but hear me out.
Sex education.
First two seasons were epic.
The third season they introduced a fully rainbow school that absolutely ruined the show. It turned into a challenge to tick every box at the same time instead of being a good tv show that had those topics as part of the story
I have no issues with the content, but it didn’t feel like it was part of the show, it felt like a big giant participation award instead.
The cracks were there in the second.
The goal to string things out with more series just makes things worse. And characters archetypes don’t mesh well with the development as the writers want it all to be archetypal.
Groff-Eric was the best thing about second series. It made main guy even harder to stand.
But then I always root for the second girl, so how else could I feel?
You spelt Adam and his dad wrong but all good haha
Parks and Rec. They spend like a whole season trying to convince you that April hated Andy forever and it just didn’t need to go on that long. They are way funnier as a couple for the rest of the show and they could have just gotten there in an episode two instead of wasting a whole season with her dating that Spanish guy that Andy ends up playing music with anyway.
Even on rewatches those scenes just feel forced and stupid. Still love the show though.
some people said it was andy that ruined the show, and given who the actor supports irl is not a surprise.
so specific genre, shows that have to use “famous” hollywood actors as a shoehorn for the show ruiend the show.
SPN for example had to shoehorn to less than so-so actors for the shows, kripke dint want in the first 5 season(adam) and later jack in the last few season.
picard was super problematic from s1-s3, and thier attempt including all the old cast was cringey at best, plus they tried to shoehorn changelings again for some reason.
isaip, not so much as a introduction, but a change in the way they were written it was clear by later season the cast were not writing anymore(and they have largely given up on the show), and they had to shoe horn things like metoo movement, and very vain issues of socoeital issues. and the actors themselves, aside from charlie and danny devito had become pretty shallow people both in the show and irl(thier PLASTIC surgery binge and obsession with being with the elite circles of hollywood made show unwatchable past season 13.
Stargate SG-1, Anubis. A very evil, evil-looking evil guy who is evil and did a bamboozle once. That’s all the character depth he has.
Also Cam Mitchell, who is just a non-brand replacement for O’Neill (no offense to the actor).
So. SG-1 was supposed to end after season 8 (hence Moebius). They were planning a new spinhoff series called Stargate Command to replace SG-1, when SciFi got notice from the parent company - I think at the time it was owned by USA Network? - that they needed to drastically cut costs, and the only way they could lose the amount needed was to cancel a series.
Bonnie Hammer, who was president of SciFi at the time the decision had to be made, was a massive fan of Farscape; she wanted to cancel Stargate Command and keep Farscape running. Only there was a bunch of concern that Farscape didn’t have the ratings the network would need, and more concern about launching yet another Stargate spinoff - Stargate Atlantis had just launched in 2004 when the decisions were being made, and Stargate Infinity had failed miserably a couple years earlier.
Despite the struggles, they decided that Stargate had more name recognition and staying power than Farscape, and Hammer made the painful decision to cancel Farscape; and also cancel Stargate Command as a spin-off but instead to role it’s concepts into a continuing SG-1. With RDA having left, they had cast openings, and Hammer brought both Browser and Black from Farscape over to the revived SG-1 (hoping to also bring in song Farscape fans to boost SG-1’s ratings), where it lasted out the contracted two years.
Atlantis ran for another couple years, until Cooper and Wright decided they really wanted to clone the darker themes from Battlestar Galactica and created Universe. But they didn’t prep the audiences correctly. A lot of the OG SG-1/SGA fans didn’t like the new, darker atmosphere, and a lot of potential fans who would’ve liked the new series never tuned in because the original series hadn’t captivated them. It was on the verge of finding it’s audience but time ran out; Universe only lasted two years before it too was cancelled.
mgm was also losing money, which also had a hand in sgu/sga cancellation. SGU writers/showrunners realized thier mistakes too late, season 2 was getting interesting. and allegedly in an interview season 3 was including more of the aliens"threat) that have been missing for almost 2 seasons. the planet builders was suppose to be part of season 3. years later i heard they said, they couldnt reboot or make a new SG series because of current “societal issues” i got this from various posts on reddit over the years.
they had a 2-for-1 deal with claudia black since they both came from farscape, im guessing thats why. i think shes the better actor though.
i think anubis was thier way of making amends for not allowing sokar to last longer in the show. he barely made an impact in his arc, more like side characther than the main protagonist of the show.
Browder’s acting was fine. It’s the character I didn’t like. A third “charismatic, witty, sarcastic leader” archetype was just too much after O’Neill and Sheppard. His tragic background also feels tacked-on, rushed, and inconsequential, and doesn’t have the same impact as Cold Lazarus.
Claudia Black, I actually like, mainly because of her stellar performance in the Uncharted games. Vala showed promise early on as a sort of opportunist anti-hero who may help or hinder SG-1 depending on the circumstances, but her inclusion in the SGC’s personnel was too much, let alone putting her in SG-1. Teal’c proved his loyalty and reliability, Vala did the opposite.
On the whole, the SGC had turned into a parody of itself. Beau Bridges was fine, but I couldn’t take him seriously as a general. Dr. Lee, an obvious comic relief character, did not help. Without Hammond’s straight man to counter the shenanigans, I just couldn’t take it seriously anymore.
Aw real bummed to see you say this. Cam did the best he could stepping into the shoes he was, and while he’s no O’Neill, he grew on me. And I liked Anubis, too!
They killed off Sokar too early in my opinion and then realised the mistake and made Sokar 2
Farscape actors turning up in SG-1 was a disappointment for me. Whatever Claudia Black does for people, she doesn’t do it for me.
