Searching for product recommendations has become harder and harder over the years. I used to google or browse reddit for reviews, used them to create a shortlist of products and then actually dig deeper and compare them.
Lets say I’m in the market for a mechanical keyboard, but I don’t know much about them. I use whatever search engine to look for “best mechanical keyboard 2024”. The results are really bad, and I mean really bad. It’s more of a list of keyboards to avoid, to be honest. The problem is not just google. Bing, duckduckgo, Kagi, Startpage… all results suck. The results are filled with AI generated pages or outlets farming affiliate links. There are a couple of good suggestions in the middle of the garbage but if 9/10 websites recommend a random razer keyboard, I’m inclined to believe it’s an option worth considering.
Some of my friends say they resort to Youtube. I can agree that Youtube has amazing content creators that give amazing reviews and produce great quality content. But if you don’t know anything about the subject, how do you know which content creator is good and which content creator is just farming affiliate links?
One of the things I loved about Reddit was that I could just go to /r/whateversubject and talk to what I felt was real people discussing products they loved. I no longer use Reddit ,and Lemmy, unfortunately, doesn’t have a big enough userbase to have a good community for each type of product.
So, what’s your strategy to find out good products on subjects you know nothing about?
Honestly, I still just google for relevant reddit threads. Lemmy’s the only place I actively participate in, but this is one of the use cases it hasn’t been able to replace reddit for for me either yet.
Same for me too. Reddit, for all its other faults, is still just about the only place you can still get candid opinions on products in a place where it’s discussed by a large group with a deep knowledge base. Especially with niche things like fountain pens, goodyear-welted boots, and stuff like that.
Not sure how long that’s going to last though. The search engines are already hip to that trick, and even in just the last few months I’ve noticed a change in how many Reddit links I get vs product links when I add Reddit to my search query. Reddit is hip to it too, and with recently becoming a publicly traded corporation they’re probably going to wring every last cent out of that until every post mentioning a product is a bot-infested sewage fire like everything else.
Honestly, I still just post here. You may not get the same amount of answers as you would’ve on reddit, but it’s still worth a shot. Besides, somebody’s got to start populating this place with good info. Why not be the one who starts it?
That being said, pretty much every time I’ve asked about something here I’ve got excellent feedback.
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet is Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports is a membership-based non-profit that has been around since 1936. They are funded by membership dues, donations, and some corporate partnerships (mostly for research projects, I think). Their mission is to create unbiased reviews.
They do well reviewing large purchases like appliances. They also review consumer electronics and some software, though not in the highly technical way of a site like Tom’s Hardware.
Anyway, Consumer Reports isn’t perfect or entirely comprehensive, but the $40 per year membership pays for itself if you are a homeowner. Just in the last couple of months, they saved me $500 by directing me to a less expensive dishwasher than I otherwise would have bought.
Also, check your local library, as they likely have a subscription you can use!
https://archive.org/details/sim_consumer-reports_1937
note this one is in black and white :)
Don’t search for reviews. Search for forum posts where users are having issues. “[Product] + [not working/failed/broken]” gets you an idea of what the product is like to live with, and now quickly issues get resolved.
What you don’t get is a feeling for how common these failures occur though.
Beyond the other good recommendations here, go on amazon and do your search for “mechanical keyboard” armed with a bit of information first, like knowing that you won’t find a good mechanical keyboard for under $40.
Then click on one you’re interested in that has at least 50 reviews and check that it’s been for sale for at least 6 months. If anything hasn’t been for sale very long, or hasn’t gotten many reviews, it’s likely a poor product.
Now for the other important bit. Go to the reviews and sort them by NEWEST. Every scam product in existence gets the initial ball rolling with fake/paid reviews, but then stops after a couple months. So when you sort by newest and look at the most recent 20 reviews, those are almost always mostly real people. Those are what you want to look at. If a product is rated 4.5 stars with 500 reviews, but the most recent 20 don’t average out anywhere close to 4.5, you know the product is a lie.
I don’t focus on recommendations specifically. My typical process is:
- spend anywhere from a few days to a few weeks figuring out which technical characteristics are important for this kind of product, which aren’t, why and when &c. This kind of information is usually available (and even obvious SEO garbage can give you new keywords to consider when searching);
- based on these alone, determine what’s acceptable and what’s desirable for you;
- if you haven’t already, find some kind of community around the topic and see which brands/manufacturers people commonly complain about and why; also see if there’re popular manufacturers only selling things via their own websites;
- open your preferred store (or several) and filter the entire category based on what you’ve learned. Pick a few candidates and examine them closely;
- go back to the community again and look up anything mentioning these candidates - including comparisons with other ones you haven’t considered. Perhaps consider them;
- make the final choice.
Skip some of these if irrelevant or if you don’t care enough. Spend extra time if you care a lot.
It works well enough for every new phone (the market there is changing fast, so you start anew every time), it worked for my first PC I’ve decided to assemble with 0 prior knowledge, the mechanical keyboard and the vertical mouse, and pretty much every piece of tech I’m buying.
And I’d say it’s reasonable to use Reddit without an account even if you disagree with what the platform owners are doing. The data is still valuable for such use cases.
I generally only ever read the negative reviews.
You’ve already searched for a product that has the features you want, so you’re probably already looking at the right things for you in the features and aesthetic department.
The negative reviews will tell me things like if the product or parts of it failed or broke. If it doesn’t do the job very well, lacks power, accuracy, etc. If a keyboard, is it loud? Fatiguing? Are the keys replaceable? Do they keycaps wear and become illegible? How “sloppy” are they? If it does fail, is there customer service? How many people get DOA items? How many bad reviews are for dumb things like color or buying the wrong product for the job?
So see what people disliked about the product you think looks shiny and pretty before buying.
They built an entire industry dedicated to gaming the search results, so I feel your frustration. Nowadays, if it’s not some influencer telling you to try something, it usually a bunch of topic snobs who need the latest and best (read: most expensive) version of anything - completely unusable for a casual query. If you have friends or local communities with the same hobbies, I’d start there. Or start in the shops - you find out real fast of they’re trying to push product on you, versus genuinely trying to help you find what you need.
While Lemmy doesn’t have enough people for each product category yet, have you checked out the community !buyitforlife@slrpnk.net?
There’s also !recommendations@lemmy.world for broader discussion, but it’s not gained much traction yet.
Thanks for sharing, I’ll definitely start asking there!
Subscribed to the second and link. I like to lurk/sort by subscribed and new and will try to comment when I have something to contribute. Niche communities are hard to form without a decent user base, but a general recommends community seems like a great idea.
It’s a bit vague, but if you’re in the UK, or EU too, which.co.uk is a paid consumer recommendation service. Really good, honest, impartial reviews on products
But nobody wants to pay for that kind of thing, so they’re quite limited in the stuff they review, it’s mostly household
One I’ve started using is typing before:2021 at the start of Google searches, it does a good job of removing the obvious gaming the algorithm sites and AI generated content that steal the first few pages. Obviously doesn’t work if you’re looking for the latest products that came out before the year you specify
That’s a very neat idea, to be honest. I hadn’t thought of that!
Cool! I didn’t know the command for searching times. Using the menus is not great. I’ll use this for finding old news articles.
Find a hobby that would use the product type in question. Find a community for said hobby then look for discussions comparing the options that are out there.
This tends to work better for certain things more than others. I doubt many hobby groups get excited about dishwashers or clothing dryers. I’m these cases, the Buy it For Life communities tend to have decent comparisons.
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Also for appliances, I like to try to go to shops that also service and repair them and ask, which brand/model they see or work on the least.
Many subreddits have a lot of useful resources on their wikis that you can use without really interacting with reddit (you could use the web archive version if you really don’t want to give reddit traffic).
There’s also this website which (among other things) scrapes subreddits for (positive) mentions of products. I don’t really like how they integrated AI in it so agressively, but if you can gloss over that, you might find some useful information in it.
I’m afraid there is no quick way to get an honest recommendation. I usually resort to YouTube and spend 2-3 days watching some related content. It sorta filters itself out, there will be a creator or few that you vibe with, and you trust their choice.
Happened to me with audio gear (I trusted crinacle, for example.)
Weeding out the spon-con is very difficult depending on the product. I was looking at solar generators a year ago and gave up with youtube because every single reviewer was provided the product they were using for free to review.
This is a difficult question these days to answer. There are a few categories where I always stick to established brand names, these are typically electronics or anything electrical like portable battery packs or wall chargers. Poorly made items in those categories can start fires. And when it comes to silicon, there’s only a few to trust anyway since there are only a few major fabs out there.
I usually follow the site:reddit.com search method but I’ve had to further filter my criteria by only looking in enthusiast subreddits instead of the bigger ones like /r/AskReddit.
It gets difficult though for general goods that don’t really need well known brands and whose performance doesn’t matter as much but it’s hard to tell the quality online. Lawn chairs, pizza cutters, sushi kits, clothes hangers, rope, and shower curtain rods are good examples. These usually come down to luck of the draw.
