• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Jobs was the fucking cracks. The reason why zoomers have no fucking idea where their files are on their computer are because of the shitty attitude instilled into iphones/ipods.

    He started the entire fucking enshittification trend and everyone ate his asshole like peaches.

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      7 months ago

      I agree. I had to explain to a younger family member today that when I say “open notepad”, I meant the application that’s been on every Windows version since they were born, not to Google “notepad”

      Gave me a crisis that people know so little of what would have been considered basic computer usage a while back.

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        7 months ago

        If it makes you feel better I gave my 16 year old daughter a laptop with a fresh Debian install and she’s figuring out things on her own without asking for help. Customizing it and making it do what she wants.

        I just thought she would watch YouTube videos on it and be content. Instead she’s talking about the nuance of installing programs on it, and how different it is from Windows.

        Not all hope is lost.

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            7 months ago

            It really is like that, the average people will get so much dumber but the kids who are interested is going to get much much crazier than the older dudes simply because of the abundance of information when they started. I still remember using magazines for guides.

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      You can extend this argument to saying everyone should master the command line. They’re all interfaces. There’s no “right way” to use a computer.

      Jobs turned the computer into a product used by everyday people who don’t give a shit about how it works, and that’s fine. That’s empowering because it lowers the barrier to entry.

      That said, we’ve been in a much worse “eternal September” since the iPhone shipped.

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          7 months ago

          Can you expand a bit more on this? What makes it not an interface?

          I am an android and windows person (would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if my CAD worked on there) and pretty tech savvy, even run my own servers. So I hate the fact that things are getting so dumbed down but I can’t understand why it’s just an interface would be not true.

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          7 months ago

          Your files are in a magic place, directories don’t actually exist they’re a hierarchy we developed to meet the traditional concepts of a 20th century office. Tags and searching are just as valid.

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            7 months ago

            Though I agree with you partially there, I still think there should be options for users to access their data easily. Last time I tried getting my chat backups out of an iPhone was a nightmare

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            I can remember where I put shit faster and more easily than I can remember arbitrary names, tags, or my own typos. But if you put all the documents in a fucking folder I can find that AND IT CAN STILL BE TAGGED AND SEACHED FOR. The problem comes from business environments using technology that isn’t a fucking iPhone and then I’m having to teach a 25 year old how to use a USB drive. And that’s not an exaggeration, I literally had to do that today.