Since 2020, the condition known as long COVID-19 has become a widespread disability affecting the health and quality of life of millions of people across the globe and costing economies billions of dollars in reduced productivity of employees and an overall drop in the work force.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/rhOZ6

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    I still think these effects come from the vaccine, not the virus.

    It would be interesting to see data showing if unvaccinated people got long covid symptoms. But since society decided to try and force vaccinations on everyone, I think it’s going to be hard to see such data.

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      Vaccines*

      There was more than one, but none of them were unusual in composition.

      Long COVID is the permanent health proplems which people can suffer after recovering from COVID. It was noticed in people who survived infection even before any of the vaccines were developed.

      So how the fuck can it be caused by the vaccine?! Not to mention studies show that being vaccinated REDUCES the severity of COVID, in terms of both temporary and permanent effects!

      People who aren’t vaccinated get hit HARDER by long COVID, not spared the condition entirely. The immune system reacts to the disease and vaccine in exactly the same way. Surviving COVID unvaccinated doesn’t somehow mean your body beats the disease off “more properly”.

      It means the opposite, the disease gets more time to do more damage against a less prepared immune system.

      Even the “Pfizer admits myocarditis side effect” thing that made the rounds on social media last year, was a known side effect that someone tried to make seem like it had been kept secret or covered up, and only “officially” admitted to last year. In reality it has been on the list of potential side effects since 2021. It’s extremely rare, and suffering actual COVID has a far greater chance of causing the same complication.

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      i can’t believe it’s 2024 and we’re still having to put up with antivaxxer bullshit

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      There is data and it’s not hidden. See https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p491.

      The participants’ experience with long covid was compared with 455 unvaccinated people who matched the vaccinated group for age, sex, coexisting health conditions, and long covid severity, among other metrics.

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      First paragraph of the article

      when the omicron family of variants predominated, that rate declined to 7.7% among unvaccinated adults and 3.5% of vaccinated adults

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        I’m sorry but reading one paragraph requires minimal effort. You can not realistically expect that.

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      I still think these effects come from the vaccine, not the virus, based on my complete lack of knowledge and/or willful ignorance of the subject.

      I’m ignoring the data showing whether unvaccinated people got long covid symptoms. But since society decided to try and force vaccinations on everyone, and I didn’t like that, I’m going to continue to tell everyone vaccines are bad because that’s the narrative I want to push.

      You’re ignoring data so hard you didn’t even read the article you’re here commenting on lmao

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        I get the strange urge or

        A predictable fervor

        To ask for red meat

        Or get one more burger

        .

        As if it would be a feat

        To conquer my doubt

        That I could swear off entirely

        Do completely without

        .

        And replace that hot taste

        The grease in my face

        With that more peaceable label

        Plant eaters avow

        .

        To be able to face

        Not on my plate nor my table

        But a kind curious bovine

        Left to their stable

        .

        Wouldn’t that be fine

        To let live for futures beyond now

        And make not food but a friend

        Indeed a happier end

        .

        For us and the cow

        (I know it was meant for AI but I wanted to do it too)

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      Yeah, it makes so much more sense that doctors, institutions and (enemy) governments conspired to… what? Poison people?
      Way more plausible than a new virus causing a autoimmune condition already observed to be triggered by other viruses for centuries.

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      AGREED! There was ZERO cases of Long Covid until AFTER people EVENTUALLY started getting the JAB!

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    sssshhhhhh. silence.

    is there a housing crisis? so shut up and enjoy the next wave of dumb people die. sounds cruel? isnt! it is nature at its best.

    also is there a leopardsatemayface on lemmy for this already?

      • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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        while true this applies to EVERYTHING. no safetybelt in a car? damn…innocent ppl aswell.

        luckily humans have a choice for safetybelts, vaxxing and so many other things. so it is kinda acting like a baby if you demand “full info on covid for everyone, mandatory masks and so on”. covid was 2020… humans had enough time to educate themselves on the consequences aswell as realize from the first wave there’ll people dumb like a trump n9 matter how hard the facts.