1. never signed up for anything like this,
  2. never donated to or signed up for emails from the DNC, et al.,
  3. political texts like this come all the time, and
  4. I hesitate to reply “stop” because I don’t want them to know this is a live number (is my instinct here outdated/inapplicable?)
  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    Hey there we’re the krazy kaucasians for Kamala…

    Wait a second, let’s just go with White dudes for Harris

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      You ever see the show Modern Family? I want a new show starring the husband from that show, about a wholesome totally not racist white guy who goes about life COMPLETELY oblivious to how his actions are percieved by other people.

      Almost like a not racist version of Mr Magoo.

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          Honestly, having watched it at some point, I’m fairly sure they mean the one that isn’t an old dude with a young latina trophy wife and is straight.

          All those husbands are oblivious to a lot of shit, but that one is the absolute most oblivious lol

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    For sure don’t in any way respond, just report spam and block the number. Lots of these things are phishing attempts, trying to get you to give personal information (or even money), and aren’t connected to the things they mention.

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      Lots Most Pretty well all of these things are phishing attempts.

      Follow parent’s advice.

      Never, ever, ever respond, even reverse-uno.
      Otherwise, you’ve helped them.

    • lars@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      There’s no “Report Junk” on iOS Messages unless it’s an email address texting you.

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        Every message I have received on my iPhone from someone not in my contacts has this after that latest message:

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    I have a Pixel. I did not realize how bad this gets until work made me take an iPhone as my work phone. Holy hell. No amount of “Delete and report as junk” helps.

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      Your country is crazy.

      I get maybe 3-4 spam messages a year and those are all scams, not ads, much less political ads (which I don’t think would even be legal)

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        Lately my Pixel cant even keep up with all of them and some are slipping through. Going into the spam folder is almost comical.

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      Spam features will keep me in the Pixel lineup’s cold grasp for eternity. I could never deal with OP’s notification tray.

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    God damn I love my Google phone. Every once in a while I check my call logs and spam text folder to see the hundreds of calls and texts it screens for me, without any notifications. It’s nice

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      It is easily the most important feature on my phone. The call screening and spam blocking is unparalleled. I don’t think I have had anything blocked that shouldn’t be, and it maybe messes up 5 or less times a year.

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      Call screening is honestly one of the best features to ever come to a phone. I really wish this could be added to every handset.

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        Yes! I set it to auto-screen any number that’s not in my contacts. It’s wonderful and I haven’t noticed any frustration from legitimate callers who go through the screening.

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    is my instinct here outdated/inapplicable?

    Yes.

    It’s so cheap to send SMS messages, and you don’t pay for undeliverable messages, so they can just send to random numbers.

    They also receive deliverability responses for each number. So they know whether a phone received the message whether or not you reply.

    Finally, if you reply STOP you’re unlikely to fit their demographic very well anyway. As in… they’re not trying to reach the type of people who will actively try to avoid receiving these messages.

    That said, there’s probably no point replying STOP because most firms just wont honor it in the long term. As in they might not message you for the remainder of that particular messaging project (campaign), but they’ll just start a new campaign tomorrow with a new sender and no “STOP” requests.

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      It’s not like you can even use Do Not Call features on this anyway, political stuff is exempt (though if it’s fraudulent that’s still bitter tampering/intimidation etc.).

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    Your number is on a list of real numbers with real identities associated with them that was sold to them. Data brokers sell this information daily. They already know your number is real, but in order to comply with the law, they have to provide you with a legitimate option to opt out, so you will actually stop receiving correspondence from them if you ask them to stop (it is legally required). If not, they could be subject to a fine, but you’d obviously have to file a complaint with the relevant regulatory body for that.

    If you do not attempt to opt out, they cannot be fined for spam if this is part of a legitimate donation campaign. If you don’t reply, they will continue sending messages to you in the future. It costs them almost nothing to do, so even if they didn’t know your number was real, they would do it anyway. Most of the people who donate from these messages don’t reply through text message anyway. And if this were an actual scam, then there is nothing they gain from receiving a text back so long as you do not open their link. But again, in order for legal action to be taken (since these political reach outs are legal and not spam so long as there is an option to opt out), you must first try to opt out.

    EDIT: Feel free to block the number after opting out. If they are legitimate (though the name is really fishy), then opting out will remove your number from all of their solicitors’ lists, so you won’t get texts or calls from different numbers working for the same campaign. Again, replying doesn’t give them anything even if it is a scam, as your number was obtained from a real list sold to them by a data broker; they already know the number is in service. Just don’t click the link in the text, and don’t reply with anything other than stop.

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        True, but if you get a new phone and your blocked numbers list is reset, or they send messages from a different number, then you could get them again in the future. I see this often because there are multiple people in that campaign that will all reach out to people with their own phone numbers. Opting out prevents that for legitimate donor campaigns (you are removed from the list for all of the solicitors associated with that campaign), but obviously not for scams. There is no harm in doing both, and I would recommend that (it’s what I do).

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          It’s ALLLLLLWAYS new numbers and my long-curated block list already has hundreds of numbers.

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            In that case, you’re best off opting out and seeing if it works. If you get a text from the same group at a later date, then you can report them to the FTC. Please do not do this unless they do not honor your opt out request, as politically affiliated groups are legally allowed to market in this way so long as they provide a means to opt out of communication. Falsely reporting puts strain on the already incredibly underfunded system and prevents real scams from being caught and dealt with due to a lack of resources. I recommend you keep a list of groups you have opted out from that is easily searchable to track this. 4 years ago I got multiple of these texts per day. I have been opting out every time I receive one, and now I have not gotten one in over 2 years. Eventually you will run out of groups to opt out of, and will only be messaged by newly created groups, which will happen much more slowly than all of the groups constantly texting/calling.

            Beyond that, there isn’t really much you can do. Your number is on a list, and people are buying that list. Although you could see if putting your number on the national do not call list would help (EDIT: though apparently political organizations are exempt from that on further reading). I have not done this personally, but I came across it while looking up how to report scam texts. Perhaps it could be beneficial to you (who knows?)

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            Mine reset when I switched phones a couple months ago, and I had to manually add them to my new phone. If I hadn’t noticed, then my blocked numbers list would be empty. Not saying that is a common issue, but it doesn’t hurt to opt out before blocking; just don’t click any links or say anything other than the opt out keyword.

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        I thought this was the best course of action, too. It was not. New numbers, seemingly infinite, keep spamming me. They are political, seemingly real Democrat-linked entities (but I’m skeptical because this spam is obviously a brain-dead idea). After replying “STOP”, they definitely slowed.

    • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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      In Australia laws like what you describe exist, but political parties are exempt. I doubt that we’re the only country where that is the case.

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      It’s still spam and I’ll report it and block the number every time.

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      I hate how everyone seems dead set on separating everyone by the color of their skin. Jesus Christ, y’all mind if I just exist as a human instead of what color I am?

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      They are a real group. They’re part of a coalition with the White Women for Harris, who raised between $2-$8 million for Kamala Harris. Pantsuit Nation is rising up and New Balance Kingdom is going to match their work.

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      Remarkably, yeah. I always get a little political text spam, but since early ’24 it’s been harassment.

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      As a Democrat, I agree.

      But I kinda want to see how deep this goes.

      WhiteDudesWhoLikeFriesInTheirMilkshakes4Harris .com

      PuertoRicansWhoAreOkayWithTacoBell4Harris .com

      BlackAnimeFansWhoAreCasualFansNotLikeThatWeirdShitLikeMyWifeIsADogFromAnotherWorld4Harris .com

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      It’s a pretty relevant distinction within American life. I’m no strategist, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable.

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        The only people who think race don’t matter is people who exclusively interact within the same race.

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          It’s a social construct that didn’t exist until the 1600s, but it’s a real social construct.

          Outside America and other former plantation economies it can be a bit different, and less in-your-face, but it’s almost always still there.

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            It’s not purely a social construct, I hate this stupid idea. It’s a phenotype. Babies do not have a randomized skin color at birth, it depends on their ancestry. Calling that a “social construct” is arguably racist in itself.

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              Skin colour is a complete continuum, and one which doesn’t very in any uniform way based on geography, aside from the darkest people coming recently from Africa.

              By this logic, ear size is a race.

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                Yes! You’re getting it. Ear size is an aspect of race. As is hair texture and height and all the other inheritable phenotypes. Skin color is just the most visibly obvious one.

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                  So you’re saying race == phenotype? Then you also have to say that race is a continuum, and, therefore, any arbitrary line on that continuum a social construct.

                  Which is btw blindingly obvious to Europeans, Harris is white in my book: There’s plenty of Italians with darker skin. Funny how perception changes if you actually consider skin colour to be skin colour and not some grand overarching signifier for an in reality culturally defined group.

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                  Well, words can mean whatever you want, but usually race refers to the discrete-ish social categories that have been constructed based roughly on specific phenotypes. For example Black people were a discrete legal category for most of America’s history, and were nominally 3/5 of a person and treated as much less. Now, they have equal legal rights on paper, but the category remains informally.

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        I don’t need to… I don’t care about people’s skin color or race or religion or ethnicity or their nationalities. That doesn’t define an individual.

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          Sure, right. Because I’m sure you are free and clear of centuries of systemic white supremacy… Uh huh.