• frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
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    3 months ago

    Personal power, leadership abilities, integrity and morals were much stronger with these people, and in their times in general.

    There’s just no reason at all to think this. Most obviously, people who signed their names to the idea ‘all men were created equal’ while themselves owning slaves quite obviously did not possess a high degree of moral integrity.

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        3 months ago

        True, but one that conveniently allowed them to do what they were already doing anyway. As I say: not titans of moral probity.

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      3 months ago

      while themselves owning slaves

      I did not say that it was good morals (from today’s point of view: most of what they did was actually criminal). I said strong ones.

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        3 months ago

        Having strong morals is mutually exclusive with compromising your morals to enrich yourself, which we’ve established is something they did.

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      There’s just no reason at all to think this. Most obviously, people who signed their names to the idea ‘all men were created equal’ while themselves owning slaves quite obviously did not possess a high degree of moral integrity.

      could this have been a tree they planted knowing they would not live to see fruit?

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        3 months ago

        That may explain why they didn’t abolish slavery, but does not justify the fact that they themselves owned slaves.