• ChanchoManco@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Equality my ass, where do you see equality when in 3 it clearly stablish a hierarchy?

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      3 months ago

      To be completely fair, look at this passage:

      The wife’s body does not belong only to her. It also belongs to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong only to him. It also belongs to his wife. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. (1 Corinthians 7:4)

      Pay attention to this as well., from the same chapter.:

      12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

      15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.

      It gives the idea that a wife can leave a husband if she is not comfortable with the religious arrangement of the marriage. That is an awful lot of liberty in addition to also being told that the husband yields his body to his wife and “does not have authority over his own body.”

      I see this as quite equal.

      You can fixate on man himself being made in the image of God, but ‘woman is the glory of man,’ and when we cense icons, and when we cense the people in the church, it includes both men and women. Mary, the mother of God, is the greatest and cleanest and purest human to ever live that was not part God.

      No person alive can approach Mary in holiness.

      A woman is the head of the human race, essentially.

      • ChanchoManco@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        That’s the thing about the Bible, it’s such a mess of contradictions you can pick texts for anything you want to convey. And the interpretations change over time to not be so unpopular.

        I don’t interpret this new passage the same as you, it clearly says the believers can’t leave their partner, only the unbelievers can, that’s not liberty.

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          3 months ago

          It is not really a mess at all when it is understood how the New Testament supersedes the Old, and the Old can only exist within a relativistic historical context. Revelation was progressive.

          It is also the case that we Orthodox view much of the content of the OT to be highly symbolic, each passage having a variety of meanings, some of which are only historical in nature with the moral truth disclosed more discretely.

          I don’t interpret this new passage the same as you, it clearly says the believers can’t leave their partner, only the unbelievers can, that’s not liberty.

          This is about religious practice, though - it has nothing to do with liberty as it concerns the non-believer.

          Being a believer means acknowledging a higher truth than oneself and shaping one’s life after it.