• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    Google’s LLM got one critical fact wrong, of course. If you only need occasional color printing, an inkjet is still the wrong answer. The right answer is probably just to have Staples or your local print shop print for you, honestly. The ink dries out in disused inkjet machines and that’ll cause you no end of headaches. Or force you to buy a set of expensive cartridges just to print one damn page, because the last thing you printed was three months ago.

    Color laser printers aren’t even that expensive anymore. Sure, a set of color toner cartridges may cost well north of what a set of inkjet cartridges would run you, but the difference is that the laser toner will probably last many home users a lifetime.

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      It’s also worth checking your local library which might offer some basic printing services. Could work out cheaper

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        Definitely look at the library. Mine allows me 20 free pages of B&W, or 10 pages of colour per month. After that it’s $0.10 for B&W and $0.20 for colour. Pretty hard to justify actually buying a printer to myself at this point. Definitely not as convenient as having a unit at home, though.

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      I’ve never needed photos urgently, so I’m glad to just have a professional printing company print the photos for me using high quality photo paper and printing equipment. It’s going to beat the quality of a regular consumer inkjet any day of the week.

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      I’ll take it one step further: if you don’t print much at all, you should use a print service.

      Yes, I bought a Brother because of convenience. Just realize that you’re going to spend a lot more money for that convenience.

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      If you only want 6x4 photos a dye sub printer like a canon selphy isn’t a bad option, it’s what I use. Kinda expensive per print but quick and the ribbons don’t dry out.

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        At this point, 4x6 prints at my nearest Walgreens are like fifteen cents a pop with a random coupon code and are ready within the hour. I imagine a dozen other chains are comparable.

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      They came up with a “solution” for the drying problem. You need to keep the printer on forever so it doesn’t let it dry.

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        I wish that would work. My Epson was always on and the ink kept drying. After it clogged the print head once too many times and I could not fix that in less than 10min, I just gave up on the piece of crap. I now go to a print shop to print what I need which, admittedly, nowadays is just a couple of times a year.

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    Hey, I own that printer! It’s a good printer.

    Remember kids, always buy laser, never inkjet.

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      I’d agree with the exception of artists who sell their printed work (ex: photographers, graphic designers). They’re not only making money from their prints but also printing in color frequently enough that the cartridge doesn’t dry out.

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        All the photographers I know have a deal with a local professional printing service. It’s not just the higher printing quality, the service can also do bound albums, hard covers and other stuff that’s impossible on a home printer.

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      We have three of them at my office. I am certain we exceed the duty cycle they were designed for by several times. The one at the front desk has been bitching about needing an imaging drum replacement for I think three years at this point, and it still prints just fine. I’ll put a new drum in it when the existing one stops working.

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      I also have that printer. I have to read so many papers for school right now and that thing is a life saver. Is it weird to have feelings for a printer?

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      Anyone have a recommendation for a small color laser printer? Like shoebox size.

      My place is pretty small, and I don’t have much desk or shelf space. It doesn’t make sense for me to waste desk space on something that I use 1-3 times a year.

      I’ve been using one of these tiny HPs. The ink is a fucking racket, and I’d love a laser alternative. This size is great. I can fold the trays and throw it in a drawer. It’s only 16 x 5.5 x 7in.

      Edit: Found one. It the HP LaserJet Pro M15w

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        I don’t think you’ll find a color laser printer that size. They use pretty large drums to hold the toner. It’d be hard to even find a mono laser printer in that size.

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          They use comparatively tiny drums these days, but they inherently need four of them all in a row, one each for cyan, magenta, yellow, and black. That usually makes even the smaller ones quite deep, front to back, in my experience.

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      I don’t own a printer because it’s 2024 and the only good reason to own a printer is photo/art prints at a scale where outsourcing it isn’t economical.

      I’m aware other reasons exist, but they’re bad reasons that mostly boil down to someone being bad at computers.

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        Nah, there are definitely cases where you need to print stuff on paper, and need said paper fast enough to warrant a printer. If I use my company credit card for expenses I need to account for that, and for legal reasons I need to send that to our accountant in printed form. I can’t legally mail it to him.

        Now I could obviously take 30 minutes and print it at the library, but those 30 minutes would add up fairly fast, making a printer the more accessible and economical option.

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          Now I could obviously take 30 minutes and print it at the library, but those 30 minutes would add up fairly fast, making a printer the more accessible and economical option.

          Privacy is also an issue. There might be reasons why you don’t want to have something printed out at the library/local print shop, like if it’s tax documents, and someone hitting “repeat job” could just have it spit out personal info.

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            Oh yeah that’s a fantastic point I’d failed to even consider. I don’t really care if my credit card bills end up cached somewhere at the library, like, what are they going to do with it? Pay it?

            If I on the other hand dealt with personal identifiable data, that could be hugely problematic. I can see the need for e.g. a lawyer having to print case files and assemble documents physically. In such a scenario, printing it at a library, or at a third party company might not be a great idea.

            If you for some reaosn also want your nudes (or I suppose, erotic artwork) in print, I can see how you might not want to have that done by a company. I don’t think I’d personally care, but maybe the person dealing with it at the company shouldn’t have to see that sort of thing.

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          I need to send that to our accountant in printed form. I can’t legally mail it to him.

          This is exactly the sort of thing I meant by “someone being bad at computers”. That someone might be a government regulator in this case.

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            Ah, I see. It sounded more like “someone doesn’t know how to just mail something.”

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            Are you going to pay for all the systems and processes that need to change to get away from the paper trail?

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              If the people responsible for whatever paper trail requirement there is in Dojan’s company or legal jurisdiction haven’t figured out some time in the past quarter century that this internet thing isn’t a passing fad, and started using digital communications and recordkeeping in a way that offsets its own cost in a relatively short period of time, the person or organization responsible for that decision is bad at computers.

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        I use it a lot for construction. Printed job specs are much easier / faster to deal with than a computer on a job site. You can staple them to a wall, quickly draw on them, use them when your hands are filthy, have multiple large copies floating around, etc. Paper is usually just a better solution for that environment.

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          That’s an environment I hadn’t really thought about. I concede the point.

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          Take a look at a Canon PIXMA TR150.

          There are plenty of other brands that make this same style, this was just the first I found.

          Now if only they had a small portable printer like that that did 11x17

          Reading blueprints off 8x11 is damn near impossible unless you blow them up

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        the only good reason to own a printer is photo/art prints

        … how do you read your emails without a printer?

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      My Brother was giving a toner end of life message and refusing to print.

      I took the toner end cap off via two screws and reset the gear toggle, and now it prints again.

      Cool story.

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    Maybe I’m in the minority, but I like my EcoTank. I got it cause we print a decent amount of pictures and laser can’t do even passing quality photos. Having no cartridges to worry about is much less of a hassle than it used to be.

    That said, laser is fine for most people.

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      Epson Ecotank is definitely the least bad option of the non laser printers. Mine still clogs more than I like but it’s the first inkjet I’ve been able to live with. And that’s including the canon ink tank which clogged weekly.

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    Also this strikes me as a very lazy reviewer. Which makes him profoundly qualified to review printers

    😂

  • ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world
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    I’m buying my 3rd brother printer today, I got rid of my first when consolidating households even though it was working fine and only needed new toner once in 10 years. Recently I convinced my MIL to ditch HP but she insists we need a color printer so I’m picking up a second hand mfc-9340cdw to finally break free of instant ink. I look forward to not thinking about printers for another 10+ years.

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    I can print at my workplace, and there is a library 5 minutes walking distance from my apartment. These huge commercial printing machines are so much better than anything you can buy for your home, and I don’t have to maintain them. I’m very grateful I don’t have to own a printer.

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    From the title and picture, I thought this was some weird diss on the depicted Brother laser printer and stopped by to defend it. Fortunately it is, instead, tauting the superiority of Brother laser printers.

    I own the depicted printer, or one very close to it, and it is a workhorse. Brother laser printers are the way.

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      Mine is 9 years old, I’ve bought toner for it once, and it shows no signs of age. It also looks pretty identical to the picture, and with its layer of dust, even a little blurry too.

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    I like that the AI generated “cons” of the brother printer are just gripes about laser printers in general.

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    I’m still using my HL5280DW. The w (and later the n) both stopped working, so I connected it to an old pi I had laying around to print to it over the network.

    Only downside is no Windows 11 (thanks new work laptop) driver support if I connect directly via USB.

    I think I changed my toner for the first time like 2 years ago. The high capacity toner I bought with the printer worked just fine (after 16 years in my closet) when I installed it. I don’t expect it to run out of toner until I’m long dead.

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    I might be in the mood to buy a new printer. I have a Brother HL-2070N. And I’ve long since forgotten the admin password.