• yesman@lemmy.world
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    YSK: the Dunning-Kruger effect is controversial because it’s part of psychology’s repeatability problem.

    Other famous psychology experiments like the ‘Stanford prison experiment’ or the ‘Milgram experiment’ fail to show what you learned in psych101. The prison experiment was so flawed as to be useless, and variations on the Milgram experiment show the opposite effect from the original.

    For those familiar with the Milgram experiment: one variation of the study saw the “scientist” running the test replaced with a policeman or a military officer. In these circumstances, almost everybody refused to use high voltage.

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      What bias would that fall under? One could assume the variation has to do with the average American’s trust of law enforcement vs their trust of a qualified person.

      (Assuming the repeat experiments were done in the US that is)

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    What’s interesting is how, even when knowing these biases, one has a tendency to often have and display at least some of them.

    (At least, that’s the case for me)

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      Knowing these helps with self-talk. You trip over a curb and start scolding yourself. Then you can say to yourself “this is just spotlight bias”, and move on with your day, avoiding the impact of negative emotions. Or, you might be more open to a change in restaurant plans because you know of the false consensus effect. There’s subtle but real power in just naming things!

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        That’s a good point.

        Ever since I’ve became more aware of those I’ve found myself doing similar kind of “disarming” of such falacies when I notice I’m using them.

        My point it’s that it generally feels like swimming against the current.

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          You’re absolutely right there. We’re hard wired to think this way and it’s a constant battle.

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        I tripped and fell spectacularly walking in a supermarket. I was annoyed that no one helped me up or checked if I was okay (I didn’t need help but it made me think less of my fellow man) and that my partner was waiting in the car and didn’t witness it, because it was actually really funny.

        I left embarrassment in my 20s. Don’t have the energy or interest in it now. And I know I’m not the main character - everyone’s living their own lives, the impact you make on strangers is minimal. At worst someone said when they got home from the shops ‘i saw this chick stack and it was kinda funny’.

        Reminding yourself that no one really cares about people that don’t know is a helpful way to shut down the negative self talk.

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    I’m out here actively going against my biases and selling someone else’s house above market value 😤

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    False Consensus Effect and Narcissistic Personality go hand in hand. Can’t tell you the amount of times my narcissistic coworker starts trash talking people I like a hell of a lot more than them assuming I agree.

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    What’s the opposite of the False Consensus Effect, where you feel like no one probably agrees with you?

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    This is basically how I see NT myself being in the spectrum. Not to say I dont do any of those, on the contrary, Im guilty of many but I feel like they are more common on NTs (specially ones like Bandwagon Effect or Authority Bias)

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    …Bro, if you walk out of a movie, that’s just wasteful, even if it’s the shittiest thing you’ve ever seen.

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      Yes, but you cut your losses. No need to waste your time too after wasting money on the ticket.

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        But then I can’t tell my friends all the ways Fox managed to fuck up Dragon Ball: Evolution.

        I mean to be fair, I think everyone knew that was going to be shit going into it.

        Although to be fair to Dragon Ball Evolution it did bring Toriyama out of retirement for Super and his Swan Song Daima. (No joke, he came out of retirement because the thought of the American movie being the “Last ever new Dragon Ball content” pissed him off that much., and he knew that after GT the studio wasn’t going to do anything without him…

        Course now the brand is so big that he has a successor (Toyotaro) and there’s a wing of Toei that does nothing but Dragon Ball that allegedly has ideas for the next 20 years.

        The fuck was I talking about?

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    Availability Heuristic looks out of place. It’s pretty much the only bias I have (beside confirmation bias, which is hard to avoid as sneaky it is), but how should one survive in this world without relying on others? Without doing a scientific bias free study on every topic in life, you’re unavoidable suffering from that bias. A healthy level would be avoiding making it a rule. I regularly disagree with friends decisions, so maybe I don’t have this bias.

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      I’d say a lot of those things are the result of cognitive shortcuts.

      It kinda makes sense to make a lot if not most decisions by relying of such shortcuts (hands up anybody who whilst not having a skin problem will seek peer-reviewed studies when chosing what kind of soap to buy) because they reduce the time and energy expediture, sometimes massivelly so.

      Personally I try to “balance” shortcuts vs actual research (in a day to day sense, rather than Research) by making the research effort I will put into a purchase proportional to the price of the item in question (and also taking in account the downsides of a missjudgement: a cheap bungee-jumping rope is still well worth the research) - I’ll invest more or less time into evaluationg it and seeking independent evaluations on it depending on how many days of work it will take to be able to afford it - it’s not really worth spending hours researching something worth what you earn in 10 minutes of your work if the only downside is that you lose that money but it’s well worth investing days into researching it when you’re buying a brand new car or a house.

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    Even with the somewhat incorrect examples, I want to print this out and hang it as a poster on my wall.

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    I’d love to see a list of names for writing devices used by trolls/propagandists thar generate completely false information of varying types. Forced binary choices when a third way is valid or the choices aren’t even related. Most of them are just plain old lies, so I don’t think the list would be too long.