In fairness, the left is out of options I guess. Grasping at straws?

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    Pete Hegseth: “Next to the communist Chinese and their global ambitions, Islamism is the most dangerous threat to freedom in the world. It cannot be negotiated with, coexisted with, or understood; it must be exposed, marginalized, and crushed.”

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      Well, I see some leftwing people post they can’t coexist with Nazism in contrast for example. Are you ok with coexisting with nazism or do you think it needs to be “crushed”? I disagree that islam needs to be “crushed” however authortarian variants may pose such a danger

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          I think the paradox of tolerance seems to be wildly misunderstood by the left

          if a person cannot be tolerant of the intolerant, then they’re not a tolerant person; hence this “paradox” as interpreted by leftists, seems to advocate for shades of intolerance then, and against a tolerant society existing

          yet, tolerance does not imply agreement, nor pacifism. Someone is still free to argue against someone with a view they disagree with, or if such a person uses violence against the person wrongly, they don’t have to “tolerate” the violence (although they are free to do so if that would be prudent) but are able to defend themselves with lawful self-defense

          I suppose the word “tolerance” is probably ambiguous in this “paradox”

          Additionally, the predominant American attitude seemed to be that such “intolerance” could be voluntarily argued against and overcome; it is legal to advocate for violent ideologies like Nazism or Communism alike, and usually such people were ignored or problems for example with their economics views were brought up and most people voluntarily agreed that such ideologies were not ideal.

          So as I understand it, the “paradox of tolerance” is not really a justification for or argument for a necessity of “not tolerating the intolerant”