Attempts to dodge the question make it clear that you cannot articulate any harm here. Which is one of the things that makes it not bigotry. Go touch grass mate.
I shouldn’t need to articulate why its harmful to insult people based on attributes they were born with. Sex and gender are protected classes under the laws of almost every developed nation. Bigotry is harmful, even if you think that the group you’re being bigoted towards has some perceived advantage. Arbitrarily stereotyping 50% of the earth’s population is foolish and closed-minded.
We’re not even talking about insulting people. We’re talking about humor that points out the very real fact that men are by a huge margin the main perpetrators of violence against women (and against men too!)
The first time I saw the man or bear question, I assumed it was a setup for victim blaming. Neither choice is going to be a win for the woman.
Based on experiences, she doesn’t trust men so she picks bear? How dare she judge all men. So illogical!
Or she picks man? Then she should be prepared for an inevitable assault because eventually the man in the woods will be one of the bad ones and she should have known. She should have been more careful or just stayed home!
The whole thing was never a maths question. It was a rage bait question to rile up men who hate women and to give women an unwinnable binary choice. The only “winning” answer is to decline to play this stupid game.
The new women in mens fields trend is the same thing. Its there to agravate people by doing the thing people claim to hate just to a different group. Equality does not mean every one gets a turn at being the opresser and I can see why young people start to consider themself anti feminists if these two trends are the most interaction you’ve ever done with feminism. Which is likely since I don’t really see any other big social media movements for it.
Maybe its not my place to critisize the way they choose to operate but all im saying is if you told me both of those trends were Russian plots to stoke anger at feminists I’d believe you easily.
All good points I hadn’t considered! However, some people did try to turn it into a math problem which I had to object to at that point, since they were doing it wrong.
no, it was a question to illustrate how women feel about safety around men. the rage came from male fragility. the refusal to understand a simple premise doesn’t make the “game” stupid.
yeah I think the way I always read that question was in the hundred duck sized horses vs one horse-sized duck sense. The average woman passes by, say, in public, hundreds of men per day in a city, right? I read that question (and the implication) that they’d prefer from a safety standpoint if each one of them was a bear, which is more of a video game premise than a situation anyone would survive.
The people pointing out the women killed by bears vs men stats a few months ago need to understand this as well lol
Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men but once you bring bad stats into it that’s when I get serious.
That’s pretty F’ed up
Is it? Men as a class are privileged. I’m fine with punching up.
Note this does not apply to individuals and certain subsets of men who may be relatively less privileged (gay men, black men, etc.)
Why do you think it’s fucked up? What’s the harm?
You’re asking what the harm in bigotry is?
No, I’m asking you to explain a specific harm in a specific case which I don’t believe matches any reasonable definition of bigotry.
Ah, so bigotry is okay when it’s against specific groups then. Gotcha.
Attempts to dodge the question make it clear that you cannot articulate any harm here. Which is one of the things that makes it not bigotry. Go touch grass mate.
I shouldn’t need to articulate why its harmful to insult people based on attributes they were born with. Sex and gender are protected classes under the laws of almost every developed nation. Bigotry is harmful, even if you think that the group you’re being bigoted towards has some perceived advantage. Arbitrarily stereotyping 50% of the earth’s population is foolish and closed-minded.
We’re not even talking about insulting people. We’re talking about humor that points out the very real fact that men are by a huge margin the main perpetrators of violence against women (and against men too!)
Again, how is that harmful?
The first time I saw the man or bear question, I assumed it was a setup for victim blaming. Neither choice is going to be a win for the woman.
Based on experiences, she doesn’t trust men so she picks bear? How dare she judge all men. So illogical!
Or she picks man? Then she should be prepared for an inevitable assault because eventually the man in the woods will be one of the bad ones and she should have known. She should have been more careful or just stayed home!
The whole thing was never a maths question. It was a rage bait question to rile up men who hate women and to give women an unwinnable binary choice. The only “winning” answer is to decline to play this stupid game.
Tell me you’re old without telling me you’re old :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmGXeAtWUw
The new women in mens fields trend is the same thing. Its there to agravate people by doing the thing people claim to hate just to a different group. Equality does not mean every one gets a turn at being the opresser and I can see why young people start to consider themself anti feminists if these two trends are the most interaction you’ve ever done with feminism. Which is likely since I don’t really see any other big social media movements for it.
Maybe its not my place to critisize the way they choose to operate but all im saying is if you told me both of those trends were Russian plots to stoke anger at feminists I’d believe you easily.
All good points I hadn’t considered! However, some people did try to turn it into a math problem which I had to object to at that point, since they were doing it wrong.
no, it was a question to illustrate how women feel about safety around men. the rage came from male fragility. the refusal to understand a simple premise doesn’t make the “game” stupid.
It’s obtuse to treat the bear metaphor as a math problem. It’s doubly so to correct the work.
But would you rather be alone in the woods with a statistician or a bear?
Men kill more women than bears even adjusted per encounter.
Wait why are we killing bears?
Fits of jealousy.
Do they? That’s hard to believe but if they did the stats right then feel free to share. How do you even measure the number of encounters?
Unfortunately, Steve’s data is wholly anecdotal. He’s killed 8 of the 10 women he’s ever met, see…
yeah I think the way I always read that question was in the hundred duck sized horses vs one horse-sized duck sense. The average woman passes by, say, in public, hundreds of men per day in a city, right? I read that question (and the implication) that they’d prefer from a safety standpoint if each one of them was a bear, which is more of a video game premise than a situation anyone would survive.