“Trust me bro” style hand-rolled encryption.
Backdoored non-e2e encryption
What encryption? There is no E2EE by default. It’s all plaintext.
I exclusively use it for public chats, like I did IRC.
Neither had any encryption and I have no issue with it.
This is kind of good news it means there is still a major alt to WhatsApp. Still my second to last app but it does have a lot of linux groups on there
Isn’t WhatsApp 100% backdoored for the US and Telegram for Russia? I thought Signal was the only reliable app?
Telegram is 100% backdoored
Whatsapp only the backups (although I think they stopped?) and Metadata (with whom you chat, when you chat, but not the exact words you chat) are backdoored.
Signal is the only major app tht’s not backdoores
Telegram is 100% backdoored
What makes you so sure?
- it doesn’t have end-to-end encryption
- Russia wants the data
Yes but that doesn’t mean they’re not important in ensuring there isn’t a messaging monopoly.
Obviously in an ideal world we’d have multiple interconnected secure apps with some cross-platform interoperability, but until then I’ll settle for one government/corporation not having all of everyone’s private conversations.
If Telegram is backdoored, not for Russia. While the founder and owner is Russian, him and the company left Russia in 2014 when they didn’t want to comply with their regime (I think. Don’t remember the details). The company is based in Dubai since 2017.
The people with the most to lose think it is: https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/ukraine-bans-official-use-telegram-app-over-fears-russian-spying-2024-09-20/
Well, to be fair, better safe than sorry.
Why is Telegram the only messenger that is not banned in Russia? Signal, Matrix, SimpleX, WhatsApp, Viber, everything, are all banned, but not Telegram
Where did you get the info? Signal and Viber are indeed blocked but usable via VPNs that a lot of people have anyway. Whatsapp was never even attempted to be blocked and remains absolutely dominant together with Telegram. Matrix is a protocol rather than a platform so can’t really be blocked, but even matrix.org was never blocked either. Simplex was blocked a while ago, but again, it is a protocol, so they could only block the central servers and apparently port 5223 too. But both were quietly unblocked a short time after, no idea why.
The app is free. What do they sell?
There is some premium version iirc. Bigger files can be sent, custom emojis, that sort of things
Ah. They are profitable through premium accounts? Impressive.
Telegram always seemed a bit sus to me. I have hard time trusting that they don’t sell all that non-encrypted data somewhere.
Premium upgrade version.
It’s the backend for web3 scams.
All of memecoin shittery happens on telegram.
