Slavery was about 99% of what drove the entire thing, so it makes sense to me.
I think it’s a better name. My only issue is that it is an even better name for what happened in Haiti, where the enslaved rose up, defeated their masters, got revenge, and formed a nation.
I wish the nation was more of a success today, but it should still be celebrated as a victory for humanity.
Personally I’d rather “The Slaver’s Treason”
Don’t even dignify it with calling it a war, it was an act of treason and ought be looked at as nothing more than a national betrayal made in the name of paranoid slave oligarchs
Clarify which of the two you’re talking about at the start of your post. The post you’re replying to is mostly discussing Haiti and your comment made be do a double-take.
US civil war
I wish the nation was more of a success today
Me too. You can mostly thank the US and especially France for that tbh. They both extorted Haiti for a debt of lost “property” owed to France. And by “property” I mean formerly enslaved human beings! That shit went on for 122 years and the first annual payment “owed” was of SIX TIMES the annual revenue of Haiti! 🤬
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It isn’t like there aren’t multiple wars referred to as civil wars.
Very true, which is why I made sure to clarify in my title. It’s an arrogant American thing to call it the civil war… although I suppose the English say the same thing about one of their many civil wars.
Wouldn’t every country refer to the civil war that happened in their country as the civil war. Assuming that they only had one … we’ve had a few in the UK so they have their own names.
Only if you want to pretend it was the only civil war in the world.
Not really. I refer to our shed as the shed. It’s obviously not the only shed in the world.
People tend to use the whatever when there is one whatever that is obviously more relevant to the conversation than the others.
“No it was about states rights”
“States rights to what?”
Gotta plug doobus goobus too https://youtu.be/-ZB2ftCl2Vk?si=E3ckE6fse3SD4wCd
This is my favorite argument.
Always makes me happy when I go into a thread to post this and it’s already here. ^_^
states right to sucede from the union
but then again, why did they want to sucede?
I prefer “Slaveholders Rebellion”
That sounds too cool. Like a chapter in a fantasy series history book.
I’m Icelandic and I just learned about this now! To be fair I learned fuck all about pre-20th century US history in school and I’ve basically just puzzled it together through movies and references online.
I see the alt name for it is something like “bandariska borgarestriden”? Does it mean “borgare” as like in “citizen”, " medborgare". Is that the name for a civil war in islandic? And bandarisk relates to a banner/flag?
It’s actually “Bandaríska borgarastríðið”. “Bandaríkin” is our word for the United States, “borgari” means citizen and “stríð” means war. So yes our word for civil war literally translates to “citizens’ war” since all the participants are citizens of the same nation. Hälsningar från en Isländing i Norge
So in bandaríkin, does “band” still have something to do with rope, string or something that “binds”? I’m thinking like “förbund” in swedish. So “united” is replaced with something bound together?
“Band” in this context means united. “Bandalag” means the same as “förbund” in Swedish, so yes you’re basically correct.
Cool. Thanks for elaborating.
That goes for most of the world. Why learn about some obscure history that’s not from your own historical path.
They call it “Lincoln’s Tax War” in the South.
I’ve also heard “the War of Northern Aggression”. No idea how common either is. I assume it’s just a handful of crazies playing pretend.
I wish it was just a handful of crazies. The Lost Causers have shaped our nation as much as anyone else. Held us back at every step forward.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy
