My motivation here is only to probe on what other people really think of when using that word, so that I know what they really mean by it

That makes sense. In my mind the definition never really evolved as I tend to take words literally and think of it more as a category, like “red heads” rather than as an ideological group. I guess that would technically make them a subgroup of incels.

But the term itself implies the former

Maybe they should be called far-incels

I think you’re being a bit unfair there. These attitudes often stem from their inability to form relationships. The struggle came first, and the resentment followed. They aren’t without sex and relationships because they’re inherently hateful people; rather, the hatred emerges from prolonged frustration and rejection.

In most cases, I believe the inability to get into relationships is less about character and more about factors like social awkwardness, lack of friends, poor hygiene, unfortunate genetics, spending too much time online or gaming, etc.

I don’t think that’s fair. It’s not just sex they are after; they want a relationship but are unable to get into one.

Depends on which definition you go by, I guess. I prefer the literal meaning of the word; involuntary celibate. A person who is celibate against their own will.

Well not really. Those are different things. Black pill is about how you think, while incel is about what you are.

It’s what they wanted to do at that time then. Why else would they do it? I mean really, think about it. Why would you choose to do something like that other than it’s what you felt like doing at the time.

I have a bad habit of biting my nails. It would be correct to say that it’s something I do despite not wanting to but that wouldn’t exactly be true because when I catch myself about to do it and I resists, it’s hard because I really want to do it despite knowing I shouldn’t.

It’s more like the person I want to be being in conflict with the person I actually am.

People don’t do stuff they don’t want to to because they couldn’t think of anything better to do. If you decide to just stay in and lay in bed because you couldn’t think of anything better to do then laying in bed is what you preferred to do above everything else, otherwise you’d be doing something else.

The argument in the title is essentially an argument against free will. Involuntary actions are outside of your control and are thus for evidence of free will. Stubbing your toe is not something you chose to do. It’s a thing that happened to you.

These terms are usually used when talking about the dating scene and they originate from the movie Matrix where taking the blue pill means you’ll stay blissfully ignorant where as red pill means seeing the harsh reality of the world. In dating contex this usually means the idea that women only want rich and high status men who are over 6 feet tall, muscular and have a huge dick and if you want a quality mate you need to achieve these things one way or another.

Black pill just takes this one step further. It’s basically like going from determinism to fatalism meaning that since you didn’t win the genetic lottery there’s nothing you can do about it so just accept the fact that this is going to be your life untill you die.

Well I don’t believe in free will so in my view what ever you do is because you couldn’t have done otherwise. In that sense you “have to” do everything that you do because doing something else would mean breaking free from the laws of physics and deterministic universe.

Whay ever makes someone do the thing in the first place is what would make them do it again, and again, and again no matter how many times they rewind the clock and try again. You’d need to be able to change the order of the universe to break free from the causal chain.

Either you have to or you want to.

Having a phobia is not something people chose to have, so no freedom there. If a person is afraid of spiders they then want to avoid them at all costs. That aligns with the statement in the title.

That doesn’t imply any kind of freedom either. It’s what you wanted to do wether consciously or not.

There’s definitely value here, but sometimes it’s hard to justify because of the negatives that come with it.

I’m not sure if it’s always been like this (it probably has), or if I’ve just become more aware of it, but holy shit, people are mean and cynical. It really poisons my mind to spend time around these kinds of attitudes, and I can only imagine how contagious it must be especially for younger users, spreading this ‘mind virus’ to more and more people. I can’t imagine people talking to each other in real life the way they often do in places like this.

What I find even more toxic than direct attacks on other users, though, is the constant ambient cynicism. There are certain topics where I can guarantee that at least 50% of the comments are snide remarks dunking on AI, Twitter, Tesla, Musk, etc. These comments add zero value to the discussion. They’re written solely to signal alliance to like-minded people and fish for upvotes.

I just want a place where I can hang out with civilized adults and have meaningful discussions about substantive topics, instead of being surrounded by angry, hateful, cynical kids who seem more interested in pointing out the flaws in everything and tearing things down rather than discussing solutions.

They would need to be force feeding me conservative content in order for me to be able to answer the question. They’re not and never have been. Same applies to ads.

Plumber here.

It’s a closed circuit. When you’re bleeding out air the pressure in the system drops. When there’s no sufficient pressure the water wont reach the upper floors.

Under normal circumstances the system is bled of air once and then they add more water untill the optimal pressure is reached and that’s it. You shouldn’t need to bleed air or add water ever again. The fact that you keep bleeding it indicates that new air is introduced somehow. Usually this means there’s a leak and someone keeps topping it up with fresh water which contains air that then need to be bled out again.

Alternatively the issue could also be non-plumbers like yourself who keep bleeding the radiators on their own and then the maintenance keeps adding more water and wondering why the pressure always drops again. In my part of the world it’s forbidden for the residents to bleed their radiators for this very reason.

Also, the radiator lines are usually steel. The reason they don’t rust is lack of oxygen. Now with constantly more water and thus air being added to the system the corrosion keeps on advancing.

I only changed it once with the extra can I bought with the mower but never since. I’d imagine it easily costing somewhere around 20 to 30 euros a year so that’ll pretty much cover a new mower every 10 years.

For the money you save by not doing the oil change you can probably afford a new mower every 10 years or so.