It felt like it was uncool to have even a touch of racism when Obama got elected and through his presidency. But since the MAGA movement, I feel like subtle and out-right racism has increased. Like a gateway was opened.

Am I trippin?

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    When a black man was elected president the racism actually ramped up. But it was still quiet. Trump gave them the freedom to be loud about it.

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    How old were you in 2008? Because I saw some really ugly racism directed at him both when he was running and during that first term. It went up, not down.

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        Yeah, that’s probably why. I’m 38 and racism has always been prevalent here. If anything, I’d say it was worse when Obama was president because all the racists/White Supremacists didn’t want a black guy running the country since it has been white guys since the 1700s.

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      The turboracism of the Tea Party Repubs is basically a knee-jerk reaction to seeing a black man in the Oval Office.

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    Okay buckle up, this is a bit of a crazy ride.

    I’d say a big event that kicked up a load of the racism we’ve got today was 9/11.

    Right wingers went on a big public islamophobic tirade against anyone who they thought looked slightly Muslim for nearly a decade. This is where they got used to being confidently racist. This actually happened all over the western world, but I’m gonna focus on the American events after this.

    Then Obama got elected, and relatively quickly a vast number of them had expanded their confident racism to include him, because they could hide it behind the flimsy excuse of criticising the opposing politicians. Then you had people banging on about the Kenya thing, which was just more emboldening.

    This is also when we saw a lot of these “free thinker” talking head fuckos show up, and they start filling gullible viewers heads with lies and a tiny bit of racism sprinkled in.

    One of the guys behind huge amounts of that, Steve Bannon, expressly targeted “angry young men” as a specific demographic he saw as easy to manipulate. Believe it or not GamerGate was one of the sources of angry guys he specifically manipulated to great success. So all these podcasts start getting funding and certain kinds of guests, and before you know it we have the manosphere, MAGA and an openly racist, criminal president.

    Then of course COVID comes along which gives another angle for them to be racist through sinophobia, and also a new hook to pull people in and then get their brain warped slowly by the other cryptofascist topics that get dripfed from people talking about it.

    Basically, the original event showed some Machiavellian right-wingers that a big enough enemy can be used to brainwash people towards racism, once there, they’re incredibly easy to manipulate. They then used Obama becoming president to test the theory and got the results they wanted. Next was to get the presidency in the hands of this new right-wing, and finally the January 6th coup was supposed to be the final touch.

    That failed so they’re back in recruitment mode, and now they’ve got it down to an almost industrial process whenever some celebrity/influencer espouses a right wing view, a podcast set appears around them and suddenly all the funding they need to make the pod full-time, just as long as they get some certain guests on or discuss some topics in particular.

    Edit: worth noting I tried to trim this down a bit, so a fair few events have been left out.

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      Oh yeah 9/11 ruined all kinds of things. Seriously I want to be in the timeline that diverged when 9/11 never happened.

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        It wasn’t even 9/11 itself that did it. It was the government’s and right-wing public’s insistence on LETTING BIN LADEN WIN by overreacting to it that did it!

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    I found out a lot more people that I knew were racist while Obama was in office through offhand remarks about black people that didn’t come up prior.

    They were far more open and direct about it during Trump though.

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    I feel the country spent the 90s hiding racism, and it came out during the election. I knew things were going south when McCain at that town hall in 2008 had to shut down an elderly woman trying to be racist about Obama, amd McCain had to defend Obama as a great person and that they simply have policy differences, and McCains own supporters boo’ed him.

    MAGA and Trump are for sure symptoms and products of a pre-existing condition.

    Some go as far as saying Reagan ending the fairness doctrine in news gave rise to Fox news which unraveled the closeted racism in time to hate Obama, and then I wanna say Obama roasted Trump in 2011 and I once read that some in his inner circle admit that triggered Trump to look at running for President cause he was butthurt. Although Trump talked about running since like the mid-80s.

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    The book Everybody Lies looks at search data and based on that the racism was the same but outwardly admitting it has changed. It went from saying we’re not in polite company to being loud about it.

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    You’re not wrong. Obama was a really good president. The problem is that instead of being far left, he was a very left central president and tried very hard to work with Republicans.

    Part of the problem is that Republicans didn’t want to associate with the opposing factor and started moving further right as Obama positioned himself in the center. The racists in the far right were ready to undo everything Obama helped shaped during his 8 years in office.

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    Lol, no. I have family members that actively called him a n****r while he was in office.

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    I see what you’re sayin. Maybe it’s because social media wasn’t as big under Obama, but the rise of terms like DEI, CRT, Woke, Great Replacement, etc. Are just so pushed out there.

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    You aren’t imagining things. We take social cues from others. If you have friends who are weird, you will feel more free to be weird. If politicians have to hide their racism to work with someone above them, others will follow suit. If they don’t have to hide it… same.

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    The prevelance of social media makes many fringe groups seem much more numerous than they really are. I’d be willing to bet that racism is on the decline but now the actual racists have a platform to make their voices heard and there’s also the fact that a ton of people get accused of being a racist who infact aren’t but the masses are willing to take these accusations at face value especially when the target is a person they already don’t like. The term itself has suffered a major inflation in the past decade or so.