Rational beliefs should be able to withstand scrutiny and opposing arguments. The inability to do so indicates that the belief is more about personal bias and emotional investment rather than objective analysis.

  • eran_morad@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Absolute horseshit.

    What’s the counterargument to the belief that nothing exists outside of nature, that religion is a bunch of fairy tales?

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      5 months ago

      If something did exist outside of nature, there’s no reason you should be able to know about it. Rules of logic wouldn’t necessarily apply and it is not something you could reliably apply statistics to.

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        5 months ago

        This is handwaving bullshit. You’re basically saying “it’s magic shit inconsistent with everything we understand from empirical observation or theoretical frameworks”.

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          Yes, you’ve got it. And it is hand waving bullshit that I absolutely do not agree with, but if you can’t incorporate the fact that it’s a real thing that a reasonable person can believe then you are under-thinking it.

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            5 months ago

            You are underthinking the definition of reasonable. How can it be reasonable and handwaving bullshit?

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              Because it’s not reasonable, the person is. A person can be reasonable without holding all reasonable beliefs. I’m willing to bet you have misconceptions about the concept of simultaneity that would not hold up if you learned the math behind special relativity, but it doesn’t make you unreasonable because you haven’t learned the niche weird stuff that happens near the speed of light. just assume that things happen in a certain order because that’s what it seems like and don’t worry that they can happen in a different order for someone in a different inertial frame of reference.

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      LOL, bro, is your actual counter to this putting on the fedora and flexing the neckbeard as hard as you can?

      Religion is clearly rubbish! How can you argue against that!

      If you were actually an atheist of any caliber, you would be familiar with apologetics enough to not be so dismissive in an inadvertently hilarious manner.