I’m not the kind who give a fuck about what other people usually do unless it directly affect me but I’m wondering what’s the opinion about this on Lemmy.

  • odelik@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    I’m not the kind who give a fuck about what other people usually do unless it directly affect me but

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      3 months ago

      Yeah… I’m wondering what’s the opinion of Lemmy about this… you should read the rest of the paragraph…

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    The thing a lot of people get backwards (fuck the war on drugs actually) is that hardcore addiction is virtually always predated by some type of undiagnosed and untreated mental health issue. To say that another way, mental health issues are not caused by taking drugs. When someone is very unwell and often poor (i.e. low or no access to medical and mental health professionals) they often find a way to self-treat the affliction(s) with street drugs. Those same underlying causes for a more affluent person will be dealt with alongside medical supervision (and often with the same class of drugs) without falling into the trap of addiction (because supervised, and supported).

    Nothing cool about being a drug user by choice, nor an addict trying to cope. It’s just reality.

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      Counterpoint: there are plenty of well off folks taking classified drugs recreationally out of boredom that become addicted. I came from a high cost of living suburbia and there really wasn’t a lot to do as a teenager due to high property values and taxes. Recreational spaces, especially aimed at teens, were basically non-existent. I imagine the same is also true in rural areas, but for different reasons.

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        I’m not speaking in absolutes here obviously. But it’s pretty well established that a very small fraction of people who take drugs (prescription or otherwise) become what we term addicts. There are lots of affluent addicts and alcoholics (I know plenty personally) but just because they have access to medical and mental health care doesn’t mean every one of them will go there.

        You don’t see a lot of upper middle class people end up on the streets with heavy addictions because they can usually get into rehab, get help processing whatever it is keeping them down, and move on with their lives. Lots of poorer people can do so as well (the poverty and “success” porn content out there is easy to find) but for every one of those success stories there are thousands who never make it. I don’t think it’s hard to parse that poorer people have less culturally acceptable means of getting help (if they don’t outright end up in prison for simple possession to begin with, which I’m guessing those peers you’re referring to seldom have to worry about).

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    Noon addictive drugs are fun. Molly, LSD, etc. If you don’t do something stupid/irresponsible on them or overdo it.

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    I think drugs are mutually exclusive from coolness or mental issues. Heck, animals sometimes consume drugs for recreation.

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    Cool people can have mental problems.

    Cool people can have mental problems rather or not they like drugs.

    One of the uncoolest things I think people do is ask black and white questions like this while acting like alcohol isn’t a drug.

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    People who use drugs may simply be looking for an enjoyable experience, they don’t necessarily have mental issues.

    On the other hand, everyone I know who admits to using drugs is ANNOYING AS FUCK, so no I don’t think they’re cool.

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    For me, it totally depends on frequency of their use. Everything in moderation is fine to me (but let’s face it, have you ever known anyone to casually smoke crack once in a while? Some drugs are more dangerous than other).

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    I’ve taken drugs and didn’t really like the experience. I know some people who think they are a lot of fun. If you are taking drugs because you think it makes you cool, I think you are doing it wrong.

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    I have yet to find a drug addict who stuck with their drug if choice due to anything other than mental problems