I’ve been keeping an eye on Men’s rights content for some time. I have 3 son’s and I have to help them navigate through a very toxic landscape.

The good messaging in MGTOW say’s that Men should focus on building themselves and their life. We should lift each other up and encourage each other to be wise, make good decisions, take ownership of our lives and be men.

The bad messaging says that all women are whores and should be used as such or ignored and made fun of.

There is a satisfaction in watching women hit the wall and realize that they have wasted the first part of their lives, but we shouldn’t dwell there, we should make sure that we don’t waste our lives.

I made this sub as a place holder, I will probably make others communities as well so I can seed the ground and keep things as free speech as possible.

This place will be different however. Users posting nihilist content will get a warning for the first offence and be banned for the second. There are forces out there actively pushing for people to lose hope. Not here.

  • Scruffy_NerfherderOPM
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    Seeing as this site will have at most 12 users… (sry) this is probably a bit of overkill.

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      1 year ago

      It’s true, but great things often have small beginnings so you never know.

      Search engines also index your content, you really don’t know who and when might see it.

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        The good messaging in MGTOW say’s that Men should focus on building themselves and their life. We should lift each other up and encourage each other to be wise, make good decisions, take ownership of our lives and be men.

        The problem is, though, that searching for a short, direct quote from the original post here brings up zero results on Google or DuckDuckGo.

        I did it using:

        “The good messaging in MGTOW say’s that Men should focus on building themselves and their life.”

        Nada.

        We’re not really IN the internet.

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          We absolutely are, it just takes search engines a couple of days to index something:

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            I am really, truly happy to see that, @splinter@hilariouschaos.com - it gives me greater incentive to treat this as a place for serious posting and greater hope that the membership will eventually expand… But that isn’t even important so much…

            If this is going to be used a lot going forward, it is a great place to archive content, and to allow sort of a snapshot of the important stuff that might go offline in a few months or years, and all that.

            I have also thought before of trying to blog from an alt tech platform - it has the disadvantage of not having view counts or anything but perhaps that will be a feature eventually added to Lemmy.

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              🙌

              I agree, I think it’s a good place to share thoughts and ideas and have them archived and discoverable by others.

              It might become a feature, I know kbin allows for something resembling blogs. There isn’t much difference between a community and a blog though, depending on how you look at it. What I mean is you could create a community for yourself, for example, you can even set it to where only you can post if that’s what you wanted.

              https://hilariouschaos.com/c/yourcommunity would effectively become your blog, though the format would still look and feel Lemmy.

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                Right - I have considered that - but since there isn’t a view count or anything like that, and I think people have to even register to upvote, there’s a few things that keep me from being very eager to do it.

                But I am considering it.

                As it stands, one of the reasons I am not doing it is simply that I do not really know if I have the time to commit to anything like that.

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                  Yes fair points, though a word of caution that anonymous votes will just be trolled/spammed and spam bots love to post comments too, though I guess you can work around that if you manually approve each comment.

                  I hear you on the time bit, it really is a struggle.

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    Hey welcome! Thanks for starting a new community, I look forward to the conversation. Let us know if you have any trouble setting a community Icon or Banner, it was playing up for others before.

    More on the topic, I’ve always felt like turning men and women against each other is the objective, so some aspects of MGTOW feel like an over-correction which also doesn’t help.

    In other words I agree with the “good messaging” as you say, and strongly disagree with the “bad messaging”. I like the angle you’re going for.

    Maybe we just need to learn how to spot the crazies so we know to steer away from them in particular. I think most women I’ve met have been reasonably level headed, but it only takes one nutter to fuck your life up.

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      True, true and true. For the record and for full disclosure I have been married for a long time. I feel that men are at their full potential only when they are living a sacrificial life and for most men that would be raising a family. The only reason this content is allowed on the internet is that the ‘agenda’ is to drive men and women apart. I think that the fix is for men to be the best version of themselves - we have one thing that women don’t. That thing is time. If men become strong again, I think most men will come out as victors.

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        I completely agree, men are happy when they feel like they have a purpose. This content is allowed to fester because it fuels the fire, both men and women who are trapped in these narratives see the other as proof that they are right.

        I agree that the best way forward is to just work on yourself and try to be a better person, the same is true for women I think. Men do have the advantage of time, you’re right, which is ironic since women on average live longer. More time to be miserable in some cases

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    I’m glad you’re here and thanks for posting!

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    mgtow in my view is a recognition that men may not find “the right woman” and they should be prepared for possible divorce if they decide to try to marry and should be aware of biased anti-men courts if they try to marry, and that God’s ok with people becoming literal monks or priests (or nuns)

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      Truth. ‘Our hearts are restless till they find their rest in you (God)’ I find that a truly MGTOW mind set works very nicely with the Catholic world view. We can’t be overjoyed when evil people meet evil ends, but we can sure do our best to avoid joining them.