It’s not like there are people checking for immortals, I think it would be flagged by a dmv employee or something when they dont believe a clear 21 year old is actually 150. Let’s assume it’s current day im caught and not bring speculation on what the US is like in the year 2139 is like.
When your id says you’re 100 and you look 21 it’s going to cause issues.
You want to get away from ever needing an ID. The wealth you gain from compounding interest should allow you to hire accounting experts who will handle your transactions and hide your wealth among shell companies. I think once or twice you could go with the “this is my child, me Jr” routine, but eventually you need to have some kind of emissary who conducts business on your behalf while you cycle through fraudulent ids and move around every 20-30 years.
I figure that you are wealthy by this point and your lawyer has all your records. They’d be able to establish and maintain your identity in some way. But yeah, just live your life however you like at that point.
If your goal is to avoid that, and you look 21 permanently a la Highlander, you probably want to get new one every thirty years or so, starting over as a “runaway teen” or “refugee” who lacks identity documents with a nominal age of fifteen.
Or just commit identity theft. That one you could probably do once a decade, or more; just keep a running file of unsolved disappearances of children and teens and pull another one out whenever the age more-or-less fits.
Or just commit identity theft. That one you could probably do once a decade, or more; just keep a running file of unsolved disappearances of children and teens and pull another one out whenever the age more-or-less fits.
Continue having children throughout your immortality every 20 years or so. Make sure you have an child of the gender equal to your own, and on their 21st birthday, you switch identities with them. You sit for their picture on their newly issued ID on their 21st birthday, and suddenly its your picture that is the one of record for the legal 21 year old. Your child takes over you identity, grows old, and dies. Repeat ad infinitum.
Continue having children throughout your immortality every 20 years or so. Make sure you have an child of the gender equal to your own, and on their 21st birthday, you switch identities with them. You sit for their picture on their newly issued ID on their 21st birthday, and suddenly its your picture that is the one of record for the legal 21 year old. Your child takes over you identity, grows old, and dies. Repeat ad infinitum.
what happens when the child is immortal too?
Child didn’t have to survive birth. I think that is what happens in highlander, he finds dead children’s names and takes them.
It’s like a ponzi scheme. You take their identity and now they have to start the process themselves
Seems like you’ve given this some thought.
Some of us really liked Highlander
So, what I would likely do, is go to a country with somewhat easy-to-bribe officials, get a new identity made there; Then get a degree as an OBGYN and slip false names into their system.
you can then re immigrate to wherever, get a somewhat corrupt doctor to keep the “family” running so you get new identities that don’t involve taking over actual people’s identities.
depending on how careful you want to get, you’d have to then generate fake histories with residences, and eventually careers, but given the ability to compound inordinate wealth; it wouldn’t be too hard.
we’re already almost at the point where biometric tech will make all that irrelevant, especially facial recognition. to really fly under the radar in the future you’re gonna need to hack security systems and erase your data every so often.
Or remodel your face
What if this is the only reason people commit identity theft? There could be millions of immortals out there, just trying to get by.
But you would need to check VERY closely who you are having children with.
That 21 year old you are putting a bun in the oven might be your granddaughter.
That would be immoral,even on a highlander scale.
I was watching this real-life documentary called Highlander about this dude Connor McCloud of the Clan McCloud. He is immortal, but he has to sword-fight people because if he gets his head chopped off, he isn’t immortal anymore. Anywho dude changes names every time someone gets too close. There was also a TV documentary by the same name about his cousin Duncan. Duncan is a bit more loose with it but they pack up and move around a lot. You should check it out, not Highlander 2, though; you can skip that one.
He is immortal; he has inside him blood of Kings; he has no rival (except when he does); no man can be his equal.
That song got me super amped (still does tbh)
I am not going to lie, the movies and the TV series were my jammalam for a whole minute. Princes of the Universe is a mainstay in my classic rock playlist.
Also, how can you not love a blind Frenchman playing an immortal Scottish swordsman trained by a Scottish man playing a Spaniard?
Welp, guess I’m listening to Queen.
Highlander 2 is cocaine’s masterwork.
Magical immortality? Fuck that - now they’re aliens. And Connor is a scientist who saved the planet with a space shield. But the space shield isn’t actually necessary. And killing another alien will make him young again. And Sean Connery can be revived by yelling his name. Oh, and he can make a ball of energy from his hands to hold up a fan blade, but it’ll cost his life, I guess?
There can’t have been a single sober person involved in that production.
Brother, have you seen The Source?
I’m not entirely convinced that Highlander 2 wasn’t written on the back of the same straw wrapper they used to write Gremlins 2.
when they dont believe a clear 21 year old is actually 150.
This happens much sooner. You have any ticket, anywhere (bus, flight, stadium, speeding…) and sometimes they would check your face with your written age for plausibility.
Surgery nowadays is top notch eh!
Btw there’s a movie about that: The Age of Adaline.
I can recommend the movie “the man from earth” on the topic. I think he switches identities every 20 years or so…
Isn’t he Jesus in that movie? Is jesus immortal? Tbh i dunno i don’t believe in magic
It’s been awhile since I’ve seen it, but IIRC, the film isn’t saying the Christian Jesus we all know about is immortal, but that this character in the film who is immortal (and a white dude, BTW) was assumed to be the son of God because people 2,000 years ago found out he was immortal and had no other explanation.
ETA: Looks like I remembered reasonably well. Here’s the scene in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bXtdr5BI74
Plus, Wilford Brimley
The circumstances where you’d be most likely to run into issues is where age plays an active role—e.g., Social Security or insurance. But those are probably avoidable if you’re careful. Otherwise, there’s no law against being really old or looking young, if you’re not trying to claim age benefits—for anyone else where the date of birth wasn’t relevant to their job, they’d probably just ignore it or assume it was a typo.
ah, you can pretty much go on and nobody will ever notice… ah, you meant immortal, i thought you said immoral… nvm
It would be very easy. There are many places where money is all you need. Living in a shithole like the USA is the last place you want to be. Go anywhere you find Russian oligarchs or their kids. There are many micro nations that would gladly let anyone print any name they would like for a fee.
Calling the US a “shit hole” because it’s hard to commit identity theft is odd.
it’s not hard to commit identity theft in the US. people are just stupid about it.
I don’t think there’s a way to commit identity theft in this hypothetical that would work. Being immortal would mean it had to work in the long run, or at least a few decades until you can do it again. Someone will notice eventually. You can call it “people being stupid about it”, but a mistake will happen if you wait long enough.
And that mistake gets more and more likely over time. An immortal would have had a much easier time 100 years ago. Even much more recently my first drivers license was paper where i was able to change my age with a pen (probably helped that it only had to fool bartenders). Now you leave a trail everywhere
You’re looking at frequent IRS Audits and verification requests from Social Security and what not, but TBH if those people keep their mouths shut and you don’t tell anybody you’ll probably never get taken away in most developed nations.
The thing about it is you’d have a difficult time convincing anybody you’re really that age, and the companies that are capable of studying you aren’t actually competent.
You’re more likely to just get deported somewhere at random.
I appreciate your answer
Why keep the same identity instead of assuming a new one every60 years?
How? I mean, it’s just so easy to get a new ID, birth certificate, social security number, credit history, etc. You just assume a new one.
21? I hope you don’t like going anywhere. You’re going to get flagged either at 65 when someone tries to apply a senior discount in person or whenever they ask your date of birth for beer and you’re supposed to be on the back end of 40.
If you allow yourself to age to that timeless look you can probably get to 75 before anyone even gets suspicious.
People always say they would get a new identity but never how
Buy an infant mortality’s birth certificate every decade and put them into use once the poor tike would have hit 25.
It helps to be in a profession that processes death certification so you can make sure it doesn’t get processed.
Crime mostly.
Yeah you can pay a bunch of money to shady people who did some identify theft stuff to get the ID.
When you fail a few times, you lower your standards and boom
Yakuza.
Thats an interesting one if u happen to have happened upon a path to immortality lmk with that power i can help you rule the world. Forever.
Why would you want to rule the world? That hasn’t gone well for anyone that has attempted it, and just because you don’t age doesn’t mean you are bulletproof or explosives proof.
That’s why you play the puppeteer
Damn, it’s dick Cheney back as @itsralC@lemm.ee
Just explain it with preaching the miracle effect that fecal masks have had on your signs of aging.
Get those mortal idiots to rub shit on their faces.
