But property is theft, so now you are under arrest
Assuming that’s about 5x5’, and going by the price of the first tungsten cube found on Google, this would be worth about 15 million dollars. Decent prize of you could move 150,000lb.
In reall units and currencies thats about 68 tonnes (or around 50 VW Golfs) and 13,8 Million Euros (or 1/11000 of the money we lost due to cum-ex).
Hmmm.
So the real game show is getting value out of the prize.
Best I can do is a copy of Battletoads
About the same as me winning a giant-ass dinette and patio set for my moderate-sized apartment.
Typically people take the cash value on prizes like that. Because not inly do you have to figure out what to do with what you won, you also have to pay taxes on the value of it.
Melt it.
Wait…
Going with your 5’ x 5’ x 5’ size, that should weigh about 132,624 pounds, or about 66.3 tons. The price, as of 2018, was about $30,000/ton. That works out to be about $2M.
Still a pretty heft prize.
Didn’t calculate the price by weight. Just took the number from the 6" cube here and extrapolated from that since it was the easiest math.
https://shop.tungsten.com/tungsten-cube/
The 5’ cube is 1000 times the size of the 6" cube and the 6" cube is $15k. The prices don’t scale up linearly though. The smaller cubes are better value by weight.
I’ll make my own cubes! Will a sawsall get through that motherfucker?
Unless there is some clause talking about time to receive or “only the participant”, then I would sell this thing at a fraction of the price and frolic into the sunset. Let someone else deal with the logistics, I just made an easy Mil.
this would be worth about 15 million dollars
But where and to whom?
Just imagine placing this in the front yard as an ornament and watching it sink into the ground from its weight.
God, I want to drop this thing from orbit on a populated city so much.
Edit: Just as a prank tho.
Dropping anything in orbit just means it is still in orbit.
You’d need a lot of fuel to deorbit that cube on a steep trajectory.
Wouldn’t it be easy to account for the forwards momentum and just lead on the shot?
The issue isn’t forwards, it is down.
You have a tungsten rod held in a clamp on a satellite in a nominally stable orbit. Releasing the clamp just means the tungsten rod is now in essentially the same nominally stable orbit as the satellite.
To deorbit it, you need to meaningfully change its velocity. As tungsten is very dense, that takes a lot of fuel. The more fuel that is used, the sooner the rod will hit the ground and the higher the angle.
Simply dropping it means you have to wait months or years for the orbit to naturally decay, a lot of energy will be lost to atmospheric friction, and there is little control over the impact point. Not exactly what you want in your WMD.
I’d want to put this in front of the house. No one would steel it ever. lol
Of course not. It’s tungsten. Not steel.
I have a cube of tungsten at work that is 40mm x 40 mm, it is comedically heavy. This thing would be nuts.
I have a cube
That is 40mm x 40mm
Just to be a troublemaker, everyone is assuming this a solid cube, but what if it was something like 1/4 inch tungsten plates and hollow in the middle?
What would it weigh? Would it float in water?
Holy shit Tom is rich now! If he can move it though.
How did they put it on the stage?
This could possibly be the worst possible prize. Raw tungsten isn’t actually that expensive. What’s expensive is working with it as it melts 3,410c (6,170f) isn’t very malleable and is heavy like really really heavy to move this block you will probably need larger equipment than standard industrial moving equipment, bigger trucks and loaders also you’ll need to get the city’s permission to haul it on the roads , that alone is probably going to cost more than the cube is worth you will then have to pay a monthly storage fee until someone wants to buy it. Shouldn’t be that long right? It’s a valuable metal… well good luck finding a company that works with tungsten outside of china, and you absolutely can not ship it. But let’s assume you find someone who wants it(at a considerable discount) well now you have to higher the specialized movers again.
EDIT:
Actually I just did the math and plugged in all the known values I could find and assuming you could sell it within the first year you could probably make $700,000, so it would still be well worth it. But a lot of trouble.
but what if I want one 🥺
Then good news you can buy it! But you’ll have to commission it’s very specialized construction, and pay to have it shipped across seas… you know that thing I said you absolutely could not do, well with money all things are possible.
too bad, no giant cube of tungsten 4 u
Rocket nozzles are commonly made of tungsten, there are more than a few manufacturers in the US. Drill bits can be made of tungsten carbide. Armor piercing weapons use tungsten too. All of these have industries in the US.
Spoken like a true tungsten connoisseur.
The company I worked for made tungsten nozzles, they had to be welded using atomic hydrogen welding. One day a bottle of hydrogen shows up and receiving rejected it, we had the supplier label it protium and it went right through.
Drill bits are coated in tungsten carbide. Sometimes. There are a variety of coatings.
The drill bits you’re buying at the big box store are high speed still with some kind of coating to help them last a little longer. The specialty drill bits you’re buying for working on metal are also HSS with a different coating and probably different tip geometry.
End mills are milling/lathe inserts can be HSS or carbide, also with some tungsten coating. Importantly, these are sintered, and made out of dust.
Tungsten carbide is waaaay too brittle to work as a drill bit.
https://drillbitsusa.com/product-category/solid-carbide-drill-bits/
You don’t use solid carbide drill bits with a hand drill but with mills and cnc machines.
Like, no. All sorts of carbide bits, including drill bits.
Lot of tungsten producers and recyclers in the US, kennemetal for instance. They would be happy to come get that cube, might have to crack it into smaller pieces.
Can you expand on why it can’t be shipped?
That would violate the Treaty of Versailles
Real answer is that it’s obscenely heavy
The Catholic Church passed an edict worldwide banning the shipping of tungsten cubes larger than half a cubic meter in volume
It’d weigh 75 tons assuming that to be 5ft x 5ft x 5ft
Secret clause in the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact
Don’t forget having to pay income tax on the original retail value of the cube (assuming this is USA where lottery and prizes are taxable gains)
It looks like panels on a frame and not solid tungsten.
I unironically want this
Me too. It’s worth over $1 million.
But the guy above said fif… You know what, I’ll give you $1 million.
To be fair, these estimates here are just guessing the actual size and composition of that cube. Still, that’s a lot of tungsten.
NCD would probably be delighted to have something that can be turned into multiple rods from god
I need tungsten to live!
If I had one of those in my living room, my house would collapse.
Let’s say that cube is 4.5’ a side. That’s 91.125 cu ft. Tungsten weighs 1,201.738 lb/cu ft. Which means the cube weighs 109,508.38 lb.
That’s an impressively sturdy floor.
Currently, tungsten is selling at about $340 USD/ton.
The block weighs 54.7542 tons.
So this is indeed a decent prize at $18,616 USD.
All you have to do to claim your prize is get it home.
Edit: corrected to a less whelming but still difficult to transport prize thanks to chiliedogg.
You divided by 2 instead of 2000 on your pounds/tons conversion.
Good thing I’m not an accountant
Well this isn’t some mundane detail, Michael!
I really wanted to use Tungsten as the base ballast for a custom narrowboat, for better headroom. Other than the cost you also have the problem of tungsten’s melting point being so high you can’t pour it into a boat hull without melting through.
You also can’t melt it in general outside of some high tech magnetic field induction chambers, as doing so would melt the furnace in most cases.
Almost all industrial applications of tungsten involve electrochemistry or otherwise the mixing of fine tungsten dust.
Aircraft use tungsten ballast plates. I know it requires hardware, but would that have been viable?
Possible but the expense ruined my plans in the end… I did consider collecting broken tungsten end mills and inserts from machine shops and throwing them in molten lead, like croutons in a lead soup.
