> Men are not making enough money for women to spend
> Men are expected to achieve a bunch of things, financial and otherwise
> The tools are simply not there for a lot of men to achieve those things
> Many men cannot meet these impossible-by-design expectations and are ridiculed for “failure” which is out of their control
previous post: https://hilariouschaos.com/post/673?scrollToComments=true
The remedies are pretty simple, from legalizing discrimination against women in school and work (getting rid of the unConstitutional “Civil Rights Act”, the “libertarian” / “independent” solution) so that men will naturally out-compete women, or alternatively make the government give more benefits, privileges, and resources to men (the conservative “authoritarian” solution).
It is doubtful we will see this happen, which means either women will need to lower their expectations in dating (which is also unlikely), or many men and women will be long term single or unable to have families through no fault of their own, and we should talk about how such people ought to cope with such circumstances.
the women want “Chads” without investing as a society to create Chads, which results in a broken system by design
The most succinct way of saying it.
so that men will naturally out-compete women, or alternatively make the government give more benefits, privileges, and resources to men (the conservative “authoritarian” solution).
This is really an interesting thing… Level the playing field, giving no benefits at all to women, and make it so that in practice diversity is not valued at all, but simply having the most prestigious results… Pure meritocracy.
I think it would result in a lot of changes while some girlbosses would certainly hold out and keep their private sectors gynocentric.
It is doubtful we will see this happen, which means either women will need to lower their expectations in dating (which is also unlikely), or many men and women will be long term single or unable to have families through no fault of their own, and we should talk about how such people ought to cope with such circumstances.
I think it will be fixed this way:
Long-Term: Feminists will progressively self-select out of the gene pool - it’s happening at an astonishing pace right now. Women who are totally head-over-heels in love with being mothers will become them at far greater numbers than atomized feminists and women with bad traits, and the genes that incline people towards feminism will simply exit the gene pool more and more.
Foreign brides: It’s not dignified and people will criticize you, but don’t be an incel. Get fit, respectable, handsome, and make that money, then go get the foreign bride and procreate. Yeah, it’s less than ideal, but what else are you going to do? Spend your life forever alone?
self-select out of the gene pool
yeah, some people have also said this about religion, that the most radical people will become so radical that they exit religion altogether, with the “very religious” as being those left in the Church
foreign brides
I don’t really care if it’s your same race; with mixed race couples (miscegenation), I’m not opposed to it morally but it’s not a preference. It’s honestly kind of a religious gray area to me (does God will that the races be destroyed through miscegenation?). That said, the feminist rot is in a lot of places, domestic and abroad. Also the U.S. is pretty big so you could just look in other states before going abroad (I see a lot of couples form from two different states; a lot of times bordering states but not always).
yeah, some people have also said this about religion, that the most radical people will become so radical that they exit religion altogether, with the “very religious” as being those left in the Church
It’s actually the opposite that is statistically happening - even within the demographic of conservatives, religious conservatives end up having more kids, not to mention that certain groups that actually practice fertile lifestyles as a religious calling outstrip others. We are seeing this happen in real time in Israel where secular Jews are being quickly replaced by orthodox and ultraorthodox Jews.
I don’t really care if it’s your same race; with mixed race couples (miscegenation), I’m not opposed to it morally but it’s not a preference. It’s honestly kind of a religious gray area to me (does God will that the races be destroyed through miscegenation?). That said, the feminist rot is in a lot of places, domestic and abroad. Also the U.S. is pretty big so you could just look in other states before going abroad (I see a lot of couples form from two different states; a lot of times bordering states but not always).
So, the option does exist for American guys to go after E. European women, which I could recommend to you.
On this topic… I am not highly invested in racial politics. I understand the logic behind it, and I see a lot of HBD arguments as very challenging and persuasive, but I think that, ultimately, any race that is not that interested in preserving itself is not worth being worried about. I am more interested in one-upping the opponents who attack my people than in being invested in some preservation campaign that erases the free will of my people.
Moreover, my race isn’t just my race, it’s the race of my descendants.
The Anglo-Saxons gave birth to the English; the English gave birth to Americans… And whatever these become, in a sense, is what became of the Anglo-Saxons.
You won’t be erased by who your descendants become. You will be ensconced in that.
Why not try to compete? Tools are out there.
Every. Singe. Piece. Of. Information. Is accessible by anyone through the internet.
Yes, there is some fake stuff, but we can curate it.
Our lives are long enough to try many many things and find out what is the best
Why not try to compete?
I’d be curious about your thoughts on this post: Is MGTOW a Class Issue? https://hilariouschaos.com/post/745?scrollToComments=true
As per that post, it seems like working class people might have a tough time getting and staying married, and they shouldn’t necessarily blame themselves if things don’t work out.
A person can try to beat odds, we also see outliers like celebrities or wealthy businessmen who still end up divorced.
Another factor for myself is it seems the majority of people have not been prepared to have a “traditional Christian marriage”. They do not have “traditional Christian” beliefs or practices (even if they are “Christian” in name). But there are still people who identify as such.
So I guess I am ok with people marrying, as long as they are aware of the risks and are prepared if things don’t work out.