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    So are any CDC staff working on ways to get word out on threats outside of the officially-gagged channels?

    I would rather they don’t lose their jobs by doing so, but civil disobedience is absolutely called for here.

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      They want to outsource and privatize everything, lining their friends pockets and getting kickbacks. “Small government”, huge industrial complex contractor.

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      I would presume they can use their personal accounts. Or set up an alternate org outside of US jurisdiction.

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      The word of a pandemic would spread regardless of CDC. When Covid started there where rumors in Europe (Jan 2020) of people dropping dead on the streets in China. By February there where videos of tourists in China going around with masks because everybody else was. A word spreads faster than a virus.

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    well, I hope we don’t end up having a global lockdown again, but if we do, I’ll be sure to call it the America Pox or Trump Flu or something polemic

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        States and cities still can. Buisnesses can decide to as well. Groups and individuals can also lock themselves down. Basically: communities.

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          In theory they can, but when a trump backed federal government and law enforcement is breathing down their neck with implicit threats of court cases and funding cuts I wonder if a lot of places will want to do anything.

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              My area was forced to do well by our governor, which naturally meant they wanted to thank her by plotting to kidnap and murder her.

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                  For those unfamiliar with this story:

                  On October 8, 2020, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced the arrests of 13 men suspected of orchestrating a domestic terror plot to kidnap American politician Gretchen Whitmer, the Governor of Michigan, and otherwise using violence to overthrow the state government. Some have labeled the attempt as an example of stochastic terrorism, where violent rhetoric by prominent figures inspired the plot.

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        Please, 48% of voters didn’t agree with this at all.

        Give credit where it’s due and feed his narcissism too: Trump Flu!

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          A lot of people in Nazi Germany didn’t vote for it either, nobody remembers them as anything but Nazis.

          Other countries don’t have the time or patience to be checking every fucking US refugee to make sure they have the correct politics.

          Nope, we’re all going to be assumed to be just as dangerous as the rest of these fucking Nazis. Don’t get it twisted. It’s not their fucking job to do the legwork to figure out we’re not pieces of shit. Easier to just close the borders to dipshit Nazi Americans.

          It’s like those sayings about if you have 9 Nazis and one regular person at a table you have 10 Nazis at a table or how about if you allow Nazis into your bar, soon enough it will just be known as a Nazi bar, because they’ll start to bring their friends once they’re comfortable.

          Look, it’s not nice to admit, but because we’re US citizens, we’ve got a seat at the same table as these motherfuckers in the eyes of the rest of the world. They don’t see a table with half nice people and half Nazis, they don’t have the time or effort for that, they just see Nazis and I couldn’t blame them one bit.

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            As a non-American, I can confirm. My personal opinion of Americans has been declining sharply for the last decade, and last year’s election was the final nail. The average American is a brain-dead magat who puts a greater importance on hurting brown people than helping anyone. It’s a shithole country.

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          48% of voters is an internal US matter and the USA is represented by Trump, who has already speed run to Russian level censorship, expansionism, hate, and authoritarianism.

          The guy forces release of a low-confidence report blaming a lab leak and forbids the CDC from cooperating with the WHO in the same week. This is world-level abandonment, probably out of stupidity so that the US profits on drugs without considering that the USA is robbing the world of some of its best scientists.

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    Ignorance Is Strength!

    In a country where being asleep is seen as better than being woke, you get what you deserve.

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    Kansas currently has an outbreak of drug resistant TB.

    There’s also the possibility of pulling coverage of PREP/doxy/other medications designed to prevent STIs from insurance coverage. This would devastate the gay community, which is why they would do it.

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      I’ve been watching this really interesting older docuseries about an illegal alien who was adopted by a Kansan farmer. It really highlights the lengths the rich will go to when they feel justified in their own actions. Makes me wonder if this new TB strain isn’t just the newest bio-weapon introduced by the state’s leading plutocrat.

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    What historic disease do y’all plan on catching in the new post-medicine era? Consumption looking hot this time of year! Trollface

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    Can someone explain the benefits that GOP are trying to achieve with this rule? Does the censoring somehow provide an advantage to their popularity?

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      Trumps first term was stymied by an extremely inconvenient global pandemic.

      He doesn’t want to be undermined by subject matter experts again

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      At one point Trump literally suggested reducing reported Covid cases by just not testing. They genuinely think the important thing is not to talk about it.

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        Its how conservatism works.

        If it makes you feel uncomfortable, sweep it under the rug and ignore it. Nothing is allowed to be bad or need fixing, nothing is allowed to change or be different, thats all scary.

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          What troubles me the most is that sounds like a very deeply abused person. It’s a kind of person that has problems introspecting and managing their emotions. Is that what we’re really up against? Is it all just mental illness?

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            Yes.

            The reason abusers and fascism and authoritarianism and evangelicals and the GOP all strongly overlap is because all those systems are centered around abuse and fear.

            All those systems create the problem and then step in to be the hero that saves the day. They set a building on fire then rush in and save a few people to be a hero. And a LOT of people that aren’t paying attention only see them as they emerge from the building helping people. They don’t see that they started the fire in the first place, that multiple people died, that the building is now ruined. And that is now happening on a large scale on many levels to our country.

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      I think it is part of making government agencies ineffective to prove their ideology that these agencies should be abolished and replaced with private companies (or not at all). That way, they can say come election time, “See? Government can’t do these things well. We should eliminate these agencies.” Many people will forget they are also the reason the agencies are shitty.

      They have tried this with underfunding them in the past mostly. This is a much more direct approach.

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      They’re taking things out from Hungary’s (and Russia’s) playbook. Your voters cannot fault you for something they don’t know about.

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    Is there a non profit that can take over? Or a state(s) agency that can help out?

    Just because the federal government decides they don’t want to do a thing doesn’t mean states can’t do it (or heck local community).

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      This is true, but it’s worth recognizing that a lot of the states, nonprofits, and local agencies rely on government studies and reports to make their own assessments.

      With the government staying silent, it’s going to be more difficult to get a sense of what’s happening and what to do as a result. Not impossible, but the infrastructure isn’t necessarily in place, because nobody prepared for the federal government to be this adversarial to public health and safety.

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        Yep it would have been best if federal government were to be the ones because they can work across arbitrary state lines for collab. But something is better than nothing.

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          Yeah, and like I said, it’s not impossible.

          At the cynical end, there’s still business owners that recognize that having a slew of sick employees is bad for their bottom line, so even if the federal government does nothing, various businesses alongside the humanitarian groups will flex whatever influence they have to ensure governors, etc. do what needs to be done.

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      California would likely be all over it. As much as I don’t care for Newsom, he really doesn’t like Trump, so I call that a win.

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    Don’t know how much it’s going to count for when the h5n1 pandemic hits, but it’s probably going to be easier to get a flu vaccine now than any time moving forward, so probably wanna take care of that sooner than too late.

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        Yup, that’s what was implied in the first part. Depending on the genetics of a pandemic h5n1 though, the possibility does exist that current vaccines might be better than nothing at least. Even a 1% difference is huge on population scales.

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          From what I read it doesn’t cover h5n1 but being vaccinated against the other flu variants obviously prevents you getting both h5n1 and some other preventable illness at the same time.

          You’re dead right though, getting a flu shot is a good way to be prepared.

          General preparedness for h5n1 has been in the back of my mind for a while but your comment has motivated me to tick a few things off the list.

          I’ll order up some masks, sanitiser, and TP.

          I had a flu shot a few months ago, but probably due for a covid top up.

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      Stopping new rules and stopping basic alerting are very different. I can see an administration wanting to review new rules. But stopping normal communication is extreme.

      I’d appreciate if you could copy my response to all the places you posted your same comment. It’d save me a lot of effort.