• underwire212@lemm.ee
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    Ideally, yes.

    What ends up happening if your research shows new conclusions on the basis of “better science” is that those in power will probably ridicule your new conclusions and findings since it doesn’t align with ‘accepted’ scientific consensus and doctrine. And by ridicule I don’t mean challenging the new theory on the basis of counter data/evidence and reasoning. I mean ad hominem attacks on the researchers themselves. “Well, they graduated from a top 30 university and not MIT, so anything they produce is not worth looking into”. You won’t be funded and the status quo will be allowed to continue without significant challenge.

    I used to want to be a researcher when I was younger. My experiences have been wrought with closed-mindedness, arrogance, and lack of critical judgment and objectivity. Maybe my experiences aren’t representative, but hearing from others (at least in my field), I see that this is a systemic and widespread problem within the scientific community as a whole.

    How long did it take to convince people the Earth was not at the center of our universe?

  • Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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    Absolutely!! Unless of course we are talking about “burdening” certain women (or certain men) with the inconvenience of giving birth to another person.

    In this case, science has absolutely no place in the conversation!! I don’t care when life starts!! No scientist should be allowed to weigh in on whether or not abortion is murder!!!

    Following this logic, someone who kills a pregnant mother shouldn’t be held liable for the murder of 2 people! And fathers who do not want to be fathers but are being forced into the situation should not be held liable for caring for a bundle of cells that they didn’t want!

    All of these double standards are tiring and gross!!

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    “I did my own research”

    Oh, you did? You had a lab, and test subjects and ran double blind studies? Is it peer reviewed?

    “Oh, no I listened to Joe Rogan”

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    3 hours ago

    N@zi published multiple scientific researches to justify their doings.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    What you seem to be forgetting is that somebody would have to pay for that science … in that sense, “control over finance” does , in reality, refute science.

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    11 hours ago

    Who has time for YouTube? I get my conspiracies and lies from millisecond-long TikToks.

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    8 hours ago

    Science is important, it helps us solve many of the problems we do not have without science

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      well … not to be nitpicky, and i recognize this is a sensitive topic … but i have come to understand that the simpler model is to be preferred, if it is precise enough for the practical purpose. As such, since most people aren’t satellite engineers, they don’t need to know about earth’s curvature. Earth being flat is often the simpler model, of enough precision, to actually prefer it.

      Just saying.

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    18 hours ago

    But I said the phrase “scientists don’t know everything” so now you have to listen to my bullshit.

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      Ahhhhh… Love that line. My brother and his fiance just had a baby and are debating on vaccines or not. They asked me, I said, it’s always better to get them and protect your child from as much as you possibly can. Like all of us here are vaccinated. I recommended that they follow what their doctor recommends. My dad chimes in with, “Doctors don’t know everything, they’re just trying to sell drugs for the pharmaceutical companies, that’s all they care about.” I looked at him and said, “As someone who studied biology in college, there’s a lot that a lot of us don’t know. But seeing as that doctor has had significantly more training than I’ve had, let alone you, I’m going to trust them more than some random article I’ve read online.” He stopped talking to me for a large portion of the day after that.

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      If they did, their job would no longer exist! This is proof they don’t know everything!