So… it’s definitely their fault somehow and not…. I don’t know… enshitification?
Is Gen Z becoming the new Millennials?
“Gen Z is ruining the Dating App Market!”
yes, they do this kind of propaganda to young people since gen x. its all bullshit.
the kids are fine.
"Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners and despise authority. They show disrespect for their elders and love to chatter instead of exercise. Young people are now tyrants, not the servants of their household. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up food and terrorize their teachers.” -Socrates ~400BC
I can’t blame enshittification on this one. The dating app model doesn’t work, period. Even in the case of a completely free, non-profit app, you still have the problem that as people pair off they leave the dating pool.
The fundamental problem is that there’s a nonzero subpopulation of people who either have no interest in or are incapable of forming a stable long term relationship. As the dating pool filters over time, these folks get more and more concentrated in the population. This leads to the experience getting worse and worse for people who are interested and capable because they keep matching up with the wrong people.
But how do you keep making the line go up, especially in a “market” with such a guaranteed drop-off point in user retention? You can do what these companies do and fill your apps with bots to keep engagement metrics up and users coming back as they fail to date your fake users. I’d call that enshittification, and it probably makes everything worse in this case.
It is enshittification and it’s how they make money. But my point is that fixing enshittification doesn’t fix daring apps in the long term.
Very true. I was just saying that you can also blame enshittification for it going down like it has as well. Burning the candle at both ends and all that.
TL;DRs:
many Gen-Z daters cite fear of rejection and being cringe amongst their top concerns.
Gen-Z daters may have a harder time putting themselves in the vulnerable position online of seeking partnership only to get passed over or ghosted.
dating a friend or someone from their community may actually reduce those feelings of stress and anxiety that Gen-Z face in the dating app environment.
Social media has become a place for meeting potential partners. Visually-driven apps like Instagram and TikTok allow users to get a sense of who people are (or who they want to be seen as)
Another interesting dating trend involves sharing detailed information about yourself and what you’re looking for in a personalized Google doc, linked in your social media bio.
Self-doxxing? Wtf?!
Latest Gen-Z trend is messaging your name, dob, and bank details to me.
Self-doxing is a major reason why I never tried dating sites/apps. You don’t have any chance there without a photo of yourself, and having my face posted online is a strict “no”. Especially since I don’t really look like an adult, which might attract some… unwanted kind of attention.
But mostly it’s the fact that pretty much all men want sex there.
pretty much all men want sex
thereFTFY
pretty much all
mennon-asexuals want sexFTFY
I was told that a lot of women do indeed start to want “it” after forming a deep emotional connection with somebody. Yet to experience that. Most men are just horny at nobody in particular tho
Women are very capable of being horny for horny’s sake.
Women generally have to be much more selective for safety. The stats on sexual assault in US would astound anyone. Given how likely it is for a girl to be SA’d, or know someone who has, its no wonder they don’t openly express desire as much. Guys don’t have to worry about what happens if they change their mind at any poiny. At least not even close to the same degree.
Yeah, very fair points. Just that lacking this desire entirely is very consistent with my experience, so I still prefer to assume most women only “unlock” it under said conditions.
I think strip clubs are the counterpoint to “both sexes are equally horny.”
Yes, male strip clubs exist but the vast majority are for people to ogle naked women.
I don’t think the status quo is good evidence. We do studies because we know how messy life is. You could just as easily be proving my point as you think you’re proving yours.
Why do strip clubs exist? Idk, but it could be because men are more comfortable being sexual. As there is less shame in going to a strip club than working for one.
Yeah, what happened to the good old:
a/s/l?
18/f/cali
Literal dating resumes.
They figured out it’s all catfishing, bots, and now AI?
And loot boxes too.
Surprise mechanics?
Dating is for people with a future. We have all realized in our subconscious that there is no future anymore. At least, not a good one.
Nah fucking is even more fun without a future
Don’t say “dating apps” like there’s not a monopoly - this is all Match
because every dating app is 70% males, 25% trolls, 4% female chatbots, 0.9% trans, 0.1% females. and every single message with your match costs $10
dis mf said females
At least he kept it consistent with males
I figure it’s just as valid to be attracted to females vs. males (or any other option) as it’s valid to be attracted to women vs. men (or any other option).
It’s when you say “men blah blah blah and females blah blah blah” that you obviously think of the latter as unequal, and almost certainly lesser.
Possibly to differentiate from the trans women, who were mentioned immediately prior?
Trans females!
It sucks because dating apps are a pretty trash experience all around, and definitely have some fundamental demographic issues, but god damn do the incels go wild whenever the conversation comes up.
That overwhelming male engagement is why Grindr has been so much fun on the whole.
There’s a pun in there to be had…
It’s got nothing to with “generations”. Young people don’t need dating apps as much because their social lives are better. Wait until they’re 28 working at a shit job with minimal human interaction. They’ll be on those apps.
lol . . . thanks TIME.
Because they don’t work. I used them for nearly 20 years before giving up. I’m a solid 8/10, yet no one ever messaged me, and no one ever replied to my messages in all those years. Not a single person.
The only way to find love is by going out and meeting people. Met someone at work back in 2018 and now I’m happily married.
I ditched it just because fpr the few contacts I could establish all of them ghosted me after the first outreach.
Like okay, why even give mw a thumbs up if you don’t care anyway.
Thus I purged the app and live my life happier by just not giving a fuck about that.
If the situation offeres the opportunity I’ll take it. Else it’s whatever.