hot take?

Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…

    • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 months ago

      Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really “feels like Ubuntu” because of GNOME.

      • KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 months ago

        I’m done with Ubuntu, after it had glaringly obvious bugs in 4 seperate releases right after booting the default install.
        I’m talking, system starts and the first thing you see is a crash message. Or the DE locking up. Or the software center throwing an error when you try to install a program. Or Firefox telling you it can’t restore your tabs, when you just started it for the first time. etc.
        Debian used to be more of a hassle to set up, but nowadays I think it’s one of the highest quality distros available. It really just works.
        Arch is also very good, and never broke on me in a decade, but what it does do is change stuff on you constantly, and I’m getting too old for that.

      • cam_i_am@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        Definitely, I don’t really like Ubuntu that much even though it’s my go-to. What I like is Xfce. Whether I get it via xubuntu or something else I don’t really care.

    • brap@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 months ago

      Ha same here. I’d try something else but I really just cba to start again on my server and desktop.

  • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
    48·
    2 months ago

    Arch Linux user here to say… Ubuntu’s fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I’ve installed for family members).

    I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.

        • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
          4·
          2 months ago

          Eh, I’m at the stage where I’m done with windows and have no desire for osx, but I also don’t have an entire evening or weekend to be locked into my computer like I used to. At a certain point, I need my computer to just work most of the time so I can finish my actual work and then spend time with my family.

          • neidu2@feddit.nl
            2·
            2 months ago

            Arch users are like the car guys who spend all day tuning the engine and adjust the seats on namometer scale. I myself drive an ancient volvo that looks like shit but works great no matter the abuse I put it through. And I use LMDS for the same reason - it does what I need it to do, with no need for manually adjusting compression ratios.

      • GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee
        2·
        2 months ago

        I had a much better experience with Manjaro over EndeavourOS because it supported more of my hardware, but to be fair I’m using an Asus gaming laptop. When I build my next desktop, I’m gonna try a straight Arch install.

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
    41·
    2 months ago

    the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it’s a shame it’s got the reputation as “the third OS” when it’s basically the only distro that’s trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.

    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      It’s one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It’s a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn’t let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    2 months ago

    Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It’s a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it’s still a net good.

  • adam_y@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    Absolutely loving the replies to this.

    This is how the extended Linux community wins for me.

    Sure we talk shit for fun. The Arch BTW stuff, the Gentoo shade and Slackware side-eye. But its all in jest, ultimately.

    Well done.

  • Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    20·
    2 months ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong,
    but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:

    • Proprietary pieces in their code
    • Telemetry (spyware)
    • Snap packages by default
    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.

      As long as you don’t denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you’re the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You’re all good.

  • whaleross@lemmy.world
    14·
    2 months ago

    Use whatever works for you. Don’t take selection advice from people that make their operating system of choice a crusade and identity.

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 months ago

      I use Ubuntu because if we want any chance of proper mainstream usability of Linux, this distro is the best bet. And to help my family with it, I need it ready myself.

    • dumblederp@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      I use mint because I only have one. It’s simple and does everything I want. I don’t need complicated linux, I need a web browser and a NAS VLC terminal.

  • AlphaAutist@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 months ago

    Ubuntu was my first Linux desktop distro and I’ve been using it for 4ish years. I really liked it but I no longer feel like I can trust canonical after the whole ‘secretly install Firefox snap when installed with apt cli’ thing. It wouldn’t have even been a big deal if they just said it was only available as a snap but the execution pissed me off to the point of switching

  • Bob Smith@sopuli.xyz
    5·
    2 months ago

    It got a lot of press when it first showed up and it was a strong default suggestion for new users for well over a decade.

    I used it for several years and I initially jumped ship to Xubuntu, so it was clearly good enough for me to want to use something similar at first. The distro-specific changes (snaps, etc.) are more likely to alienate experienced users, whereas new users are less likely to object to things like snaps.

    I don’t use anything Ubuntu-based these days, but it has everything to do with my specific needs/preferences. Nothing directly to do with the decisions that get bad press among long-term users.