A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.

I just don’t see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.

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    The car made a fatal decision faster than any human could possibly correct it. Tesla’s idea that drivers can “supervise” these systems is, at this point, nothing more than a legal loophole.

    What I don’t get is how this false advertising for years hasn’t caused Tesla bankruptcy already?

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      Took me a second to get it, but that’s brilliant.
      I wonder if there might even be some truth to it?

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    7 hours ago

    I have visions of Elon sitting in his lair, stroking his cat, and using his laptop to cause this crash. /s

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    Why someone will be a passenger in self-driving vehicle? They know that they are a test subjects, part of a “Cartrial” (or whatever should be called)? Self-Driving is not reliable and not necessery. Too much money is invested in something that is “Low priority to have”. There are prefectly fast and saf self-driving solutions like High-speed Trains.

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      I have no idea, I guess they have a lot more confidence in self driving (ESPECIALLY Tesla) than I do.

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    8 hours ago

    “I’m confident that Save full self driving (SFSD) will be ready next year”

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    17 hours ago

    The worst part is that this problem has already been solved by using LIDAR. Vegas had fully self-driving cars that I saw perform flawlessly, because they were manufactured by a company that doesn’t skimp on tech and rip people off.

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        9 hours ago

        Probably Zoox, but conceptually similar, LiDAR backed.

        You can immobilize them by setting anything large on them. Your purse, a traffic cone, a person :)

        Probably makes sense to be a little cautious with the gas pedal when there is an anything on top the vehicle.

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          That and if you just put your toddler on the roof of the car or something or trunk for a quick second to grab something from your pocket…VROooOMMM baby gone.

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    14 hours ago

    I use autopilot all the time on my boat. No way in hell I’d trust it in a car. They all occasionally get suicidal. Mine likes to lull you into a sense of false security, then take a sharp turn into a channel marker or cargo ship at the last second.

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      8 hours ago

      They have auto pilot on boats? I never even thought about that existing. Makes sense, just never heard of it until just now!

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        They’ve technically had autopilots for over a century, the first one was the oil tanker J.A Moffett in 1920. Though the main purpose of it is to keep the vessel going dead straight as otherwise wind and currents turn it, so using modern car terms I think it would be more accurate to say they have lane assist? Commercial ones can often do waypoint navigation, following a set route on a map, but I don’t think that’s very common on personal vessels.

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      Exactly. My car doesn’t have AP, but it does have a shed load of sensors and sometimes it just freaks out about stuff being too close to car for no discernible reason. Really freaks me out as I’m like what you see bro we just driving down the motorway.

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      14 hours ago

      Isn’t there a plane whose autopilot famously keeps trying to crash into the ground. The general advice is to just not let it do that, whenever it looks like it’s about to crash into the ground, pull up instead.

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        All the other answers here are wrong. It was the Boeing 737-Max.

        They fit bigger, more fuel efficient engines on it that changed the flight characteristics, compared to previous 737s. And so rather than have pilots recertify on this as a new model (lots of flight hours, can’t switch back), they designed software to basically make the aircraft seem to behave like the old model.

        And so a bug in the cheaper version of the software, combined with a faulty sensor, would cause the software to take over and try to override the pilots and dive downward instead of pulling up. Two crashes happened within 5 months, to aircraft that were pretty much brand new.

        It was grounded for a while as Boeing fixed the software and hardware issues, and, more importantly, updated all the training and reference materials for pilots so that they were aware of this basically secret setting that could kill everyone.

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        7 hours ago

        Pretty sure that’s the Boeing 777 and they discovered that after a crash off Brazil.

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        The Being 787 Max did that when the sensor got faulty and there was no redundancy for the sensor’s because that was in an optional addon package

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          Even worse, the pilots and the airlines didn’t even know the sensor or associated software control existed and could do that.

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    I am never getting into a self driving car. I don’t understand why we are investing money into this technology when people can already drive cars on their own, and we should be moving towards robust public transportation systems anyway. A waste of time and resources to… what exactly? Stare at your phone for a few extra minutes a day? Work from home and every city having robust electric transit systems is what the future is supposed to be.

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        In general I am opposed to machines being in direct control of weapons. I am also definitely of the opinion that there are lots of people who shouldn’t be driving.

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      Back when I still believed, I was excited because I wanted get in my car and take a 90-minute nap until I arrived at work.

      With public transportation, you can only be half-asleep or you’ll miss your stop.

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        I used to dream of watching a movie then falling asleep in bed while my car drove the 8 hours to my folks’ house.

        But I’d want that beast to be bristling with sensors of every kind. None of this “cameras only” idiocy.

        Someday. Maybe.

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        I have a 45 minute high speed train commute to a busy end-of-line station. I can sleep, read, work, or just stare out the window and think.

        Same commute is probably twice as long by car during rush hour.

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          I wish I lived in a place that took rail infrastructure seriously. But all our trains appear to be built out of sheet iron and about four nails, oll movement is accompanied with eeeeeeeeeccccchhhhhhhheeeeeekkkkkkkscccreeeeeeeekkkkeeeeek

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    Anything outside of a freshly painted and paved LA roads at high noon while it’s sunny isn’t ready for self drivings it seems

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        I’m not sure about even the more advanced self-driving cars. Shit gets fucked with snow and all kinds of other stuff.

        Flummoxes many human drivers too tbh.

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          I’m confident that they all still need lots of work for advanced weather, but you’re not seeing a Waymo or a Zoox drive into a tree for no reason.

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        Tunnels are extra dangerous. Not because of the likelihood of an accident, but because of the situation if an accident happens. It blocks the tunnels easily, fills it with smoke, and kills hundreds.

        Except newly built tunnels in rich countries.