I’m seeing a lot of international messages getting this wrong, so this is how you refer to the Prime Minister of the UK.
First, we normally refer to the PM just by name, like anyone else. So, “Keir Starmer” or “Mr Starmer”.
“Prime Minister” is not used as a title like “President” is. He’s not “Prime Minister Starmer”. He’s just “the Prime Minister” or “the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer”.
Unusually, this new PM is also a knight. Of course, this has its own rules.
If you want to use this title, it’s not quite as simple as replacing “Mr” with "Sir’. The first name is more important than the surname here. He’s not “Sir Starmer”. He’s “Sir Keir Starmer” or “Sir Keir”.
Hope it helps!
we also like to refer to our PM as tosser or wanker
That’s Sir tosser to you!
this guy politcs
I figured this was going to be somebody wanting to talk about his politics or something like that but no it’s just a pedantic Englishman pissed that people are using the wrong title
to be fair, pedantry is one of our key exports
Capital T.
Sincerest apologies m’kind fellow!
Put a comma after “apologies”.
PedanTry?
Your T is already capital!
And we love you for it! My current favorite YouTuber is doing a “Star Trek Reviewed by a pedant” https://youtube.com/@unlimited_lives?si=h3DEcI8wWpVj-MgK
haaa this is brill
Why bother getting to know their politics? The UK has been going through Prime Ministers faster than McDonalds fry cooks.
/s
That always ends up happening. Whenever a government has being in power for too long they start to break into 90 different factions and spend their entire time fighting each other, and not getting anything else done.
Also a certain group of the Conservatives have started to play by the Republican Party playbook, while the rest of them are politely asking if maybe they could not be fascists? Of course appeasement never works so apparently the next best option is to have giant arguments about it and replace the PM every 10 minutes.
Fortunately Labour are another party, and regardless of what you think about them as a party, they are at least different and are less fractional currently, so perhaps now we can get something done.
He’s “Sir Keir Starmer” or “Sir Keir”.
Oh, so when you say it it’s alright, but when we say it “it’s called football”. Double standards much?
Incredible username
What? You mean to tell me that he is not called Sir Prime Minister Mr. Keir Rodney Starmer? Unbelievable.
Unless you’re Harriet Jones, Prime Minister
Damn you, you beat me to it
I’m not too familiar with knighthood. How did he become knighted?
He did a fairly good job as the head of criminal prosecutions in the UK for around 5 years, and he was knighted to recognise that when he stepped down
That’s… it? You can get knighted for being “fairly good” at your job for half a decade, and then quitting?
Heck, I’m “fairly good” as a software developer. I’m pretty darn good actually, and have been working for more than half a decade, and I don’t intend to quit. Where do I queue for one of them knightings? 😅🗡️
That’s… it? You can get knighted for being “fairly good” at your job for half a decade, and then quitting?
Yes. Knighthood is generally up to the whims of the monarch. Although to make it there, it’s generally expected you have an achievement significant enough to be befitting of one.
But from what I recall, there’s little stopping his majesty from conferring a knighthood onto Chief Mouser Larry for his research into the napping suitability of 10 Downing Street’s furniture, if he wanted to do that.
And how many millions of people are fairly good at being a software developer?
I think “fairly good” was an understatement on my part… Tim Berners-Lee got a knighthood for being “fairly good” as a software developer, as he invented the worldwide web. Kier Starmer got a knighthood for being “fairly good” as a public procecutor for handling a number of cases of national importance extremely well. What have you done that has significantly changed the country for the better?
You’ve got to consider the difficulty/seniority of the job, a general doing a “fairly good” job is more likely to get a medal than a private doing a “fairly good” job who’ll get fuck all
Sorry if it isn’t obvious – I’m facetiously joking in all of these comments. 😇 Just playing on the “fairly good” phrasing and memeing on it. 😉
Hmm depends, were quite good as Head of Software Development for the United Kingdom?
No. 😞 But maybe I could be, if all it takes is to be fairly good? 🥹
Agreed in general, but I think ‘Prime Minister Starmer’ is fine tbh, when used by non UK media and people generally.
And titles (e.g., Miss, Ms, Mr, Mrs, Dr, Prof.) aren’t used with only the first name.
(Though the BBC likes to do this with their ‘celebrity’ doctors).
Kier Elizabeth Starmer
