• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I saved this info to a file on my computer in case the Google Sheet doc goes away. Don’t be passive. Take some action, no matter how small.

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      I don’t really need the sheet, but this comment compelled me to download it anyway

      Nothing stresses me out more than FOMO

      If you’re reading this like 5 years from now and the doc is gone, feel free to reply or DM me or the guy I’m replying to. I will probably still have it, unless I get hit by a bus or something

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      Good plan. I will do the same. Although you might go back and do it periodically, because the list started a few days ago with only 150 names on it.

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      It’s funny that Republicans want to force women to have babies but then also complain about women that have too many babies and refer to them as “welfare babies” but also want to defund social aid programs and not provide additional resources to foster kids and orphanages.

      (I know that was a run-on sentence.)

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        Well, it was a run-on thought! It really does feel that convoluted when you try and figure it out, but rest assured, you’ve now thought about this in more depth than most conservatives!

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        They want the right kind of babies.

        “Welfare babies” are babies born to poor and working class parents.

        They want middle class white people breeding like rabbits, though.

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      I’d like to see how many people who have abortions later on choose to have a child. I think the “what if” logic for not having an abortions should also be applied to when having an abortion.

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        more than you’d think, i’m guessing.

        anyway, what’s it to you? if someone has an abortion and never chooses to have a child, why does that matter to anyone else?

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    Any document for doctors who will actually listen and not make incredibly fucking idiotic observations about completely irrelevant medical topics? Asking for at least half the population of women in the U.S. who have gone in with a legit problem and been verbally pushed aside and not listened to.

    “When was your last period?”

    “I came in to be prescribed anti-depressants. I have been officially diagnosed.”

    “Yes yes, but how is your uterus?”

    “I am going to need anti-psychotics if you keep this up.”

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    Something makes me uneasy about this being a Google sheet, you need to use credentials to view it and someone has a log of who has accessed it…you can probably even see who’s viewing it in realtime

    Use an anonymous account! Or someone should host this on a website or something with higher privacy

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      Just entered it, with my Google credentials, even though I’m neither a woman nor an American. If they are going to track people who read it, let’s add as much garbage data as we can (to the tracking, not to the sheet)

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    Are these not valid questions? Serious question, don’t mean to offend. I got asked the same types of questions before my doctor agreed to do my vasectomy.

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      Age definitely seems really valid. Like I can imagine that certain things about the operation itself can change with age.

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    I’m so happy that I already see a doctor on that list. When I told her that I won’t function if I get taken off my birth control because of my endometriosis and how heavy my periods are, I was told that a hysterectomy isn’t something she’d consider YET and heavily implied she’d actually consider it if birth control becomes illegal. Love her.

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      i hope you will forgive me for asking something so personal (and i understand if you choose to ignore it), but - if you want a hysterectomy now and have been advised of the impacts, why is she unwilling at present?

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        Because she doesn’t think it is medically necessary due to the fact my birth control is keeping everything handled. I’m fine with not getting one now, but will want one if birth control becomes illegal.

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      Urologists do vasectomies and they don’t generally harass guys about their reproductive choices because sexism (vasectomies being easier to reverse is probably a factor too).

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        I got my vasectomy done through Planned Parenthood. I had to go in for a screening first where they asked questions like, “Are you sure you want to do this?” and I said yeah and they said, “Really sure?” and I said yeah, so they said “OK cool, come back in two weeks and we’ll snip snip.”

        Very easy process, highly recommend.

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          When I broached the subject with my doctor he asked how many kids I have. I said 0. He seemed to have more of a personal reaction as if a friend had said that and he started to push back ever so slightly saying something like “but kids are great”. I just responded matter of factly that that shouldn’t matter. He instantly snapped out of it and back to doctor mode, apologized, and set up the referral. I was snipped inside a month with not another whisper of hesitancy from anyone.

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          Had mine done through the NHS. Basically two questions, “do you have children already” and “how long since your last child was born?”.

          If you haven’t had kids yet, you just need to explain why you want a vasectomy, usually with a specialist. If your last child was born less than two months ago, they want you to wait (apparently a lot of men’s first reaction to the realities of having a baby is to try to ensure it won’t happen again).

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            Why should I have to explain my choices regarding my body? Take my money and do your job or don’t and I’ll go to someone else who will.

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              Because like it or not, it’s not the doctors job to do whatever you want no questions asked. It’s to evaluate need, desire, and risks and advise and act accordingly.

              The doctor who would perform an unnecessary procedure without doing that is just as bad as the one who refuses. Maybe worse.

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                It doesn’t need to be necessary. It’s not their call. It’s no different from getting an abortion.

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        Holup. Is that a penis specific doctor or is there no penis specific doctor while everyone is going around saying vagina science is way behind penis science because societal level discrimination?

        Also, literally everyone I meet who hears about it gives me shit for my choice to never have kids, and I’m a guy. Just because you don’t experience it doesn’t mean guys don’t also take shit from the baby crazy people. I’m an antinatalist.

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          Women also have urinary tracts so no, Urologists treat both sexes. Believe it or not gynecology was very sexist in the era where only men could be doctors. The presence of a specialty does not preclude it from bias and harm.

          Also saying penis specific and vagina specific is really missing the mark, it’s generally the internal stuff that is more of an issue (prostates for men, womb, ovaries and fallopian tubes for women).

          Men are generally more permitted by traditional western society to pursue things outside of raising a family than women are, and as with most things personal experience can and will vary.

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            Gynecology probably used to be really bullshit and run by dudes who just wanted to deal with vagina for a living.

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      Yes, it’s called “keep it in your pants if you want your partner to get pregnant and she doesn’t want to because abortion is illegal in a lot of states now.”

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        Keep it in my pants is my strategy anyhow because I’m an antinatalist and do not gamble with my ethics. There isn’t a scenario where I’m trying to impregnate someone who doesn’t want it, so don’t come at me with a chip on your shoulder like that.

        I had a friend who was born despite his father’s vasectomy. I don’t care what the odds are. I don’t play with odds.

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          I’m guessing the odds are so slim that vasectomy plus condom is so close to impossible statistically speaking that you would be safe. I’m not trying to criticize your personal choice, which is perfectly valid.

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            I’d rather jerk it than bother with a condom and my cosmic tier anxiety about the universe I live in trying to peg me with a ‘gotcha’ and beating me up over failing to handle my own desire. I’ll handle it.

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              I had kids when I got together with my now-husband and he did too, and I had a history of literally falling pregnant each of the times I didn’t use birth control, so he was vasectomized AND I had IUD put in, together this was as good as science can do now and it worked perfectly. Vasectomy can regrow but IUD is very reliable.

              I guess if sex isn’t important to you then enjoy, or if you can enjoy sex with men that would also be 100% no chance of pregnancy. But for me, it’s such a wonderful part of life, letting fear rule it seems bad.

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                I can’t say I’m not horny as fuck. I just deal with it. It’d be pretty convenient to be gay. 🤣

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    how do i submit a doctor? i had a hysterectomy at 27, childless, thanks to an exhausting search that led me to an amazing gyno in my area.

    ope, i figured it out. lol

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      Yeah I don’t think that’s the plan for most people. Some people just don’t want to take on the resposibility of kids and tubal litigation and vasectomies are good ways to prevent kids.

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        Hey, I have no issues with that. After all, it’s mainly liberals/progressives/leftist that are anti-children.