Censorship is a real problem, but you don’t have to embrace it. That’s just making the problem worse.

  • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I agree, I don’t like all the self censorship that I think comes about from algorithms like tiktok - I’m not talking about ideas, but instead about literal words replacement censorship like “unalive” “seggs” and that like

    I want people to be bold enough to use the real word - at least in irl conversation.

    It feels way too much like Orwell’s Newspeak

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    2 months ago

    Its to avoid being censored actually. I think we get their gist when we are missing one letter. Depends on which platform that determines if it’s pointless or not but who cares.

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      2 months ago

      If you’re gonna self censor then just use a different word. Self censoring is still caving in to censorship in general. Either say the full word uncensored or pick a different word. Anything else is just annoying to read.

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        2 months ago

        Why the fuck would that matter lol.

        Ideas are being censored by filtering words so if the idea comes across then its the same thing.

        Sorry for cursing.

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          2 months ago

          At what point is fuck, shit, cock, cunt, pussy, bitch, slut, ass, or any other “bad” word an idea?

          If you’re gonna cave into censorship then fucking cave. Anything less is just pathetic.

          And no need to apologize. In all honesty please curse more. Fuck what snooty people think is uncouth.

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            2 months ago

            Oh i kind of thought you were concerned with ideological expression being culled… but i guess you just want to cuss lmao.

            Arent you caving MORE if you use an entirely different word? Omitting a single letter means you express exactly what you intended to but using an entirely different word… holy shit thats like repressing your true self to please corporations… or something… sorry im not good at this.

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              2 months ago

              You’re correct that I just want to cuss. But the two aren’t unrelated. If someone can decide certain words are inappropriate they can decide any words are inappropriate.

              My point about caving is if you’re gonna cave to their (whatever website/app) rules then cave completely. Don’t swear. At all. If you want to swear but can’t because of some bullshit terms of service then either protest by swearing brazenly or use a different word.

              If you’re not gonna spell it out then you’re already doing what they want.

              • tee900@lemmy.world
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                2 months ago

                Idk i just consider the important ethical questions of life and society and compare it to your disdain for asterisks and wonder why you walk this path. Seems really specific and im not sure who benefits.

      • Mesophar@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        I disagree with that. Content creators need to adapt to survive with the modern algorithms. Those algorithms are trash and the censorship behind it can eat a fat one, but the creators are just trying to get paid.

        Now, bringing that self-censorship into real life, into casual conversation with friends, off of platforms that are monetized… that is what annoys me. Not because they are difficult to read, that’s just an evolution of slang, but because it muddies the language and weakens our ability to communicate. “Unalive” instead of suicide or killed makes it seem less serious, less graphic, at least to me. And that’s the whole point of why they are using replacements in monetized content, because it is safer, but sometimes language needs to be harsher.

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    2 months ago

    It doesn’t make much sense anyway. You try to take away the power a word has or make it so it’s not readily available, but that just makes me wonder more about it.

    “The f word? Which f word?”

    “Why did they put an asterisk to hide ‘abuse’?”

    “F*cker” - great censoring. Nobody will ever be able to tell what that word was.

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    2 months ago

    A lot of the time they are doing it to avoid their posts coming up when malicious assholes search for posts about topics they want to argue about. I guess it works when those assholes are too lazy to try searching with wildcards.

    Also a lot of them do it because of habit from games or messaging apps that have language filters. It is a modern version of allowable cursing that older people learned as kids, like saying fudge instead of fuck.

  • zarathustra0@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Personal censorship has been around for a long time. People have always avoided saying things that others might view as weird or repulsive.

    The true change is that everyday conversation is more monitored now than it ever has been before.

    We have let insipidly authoritarian technology into our lives in an intimate way.

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    2 months ago

    If you can’t say ‘fuck’, you can’t say ‘fuck David Cameron with a piece of slightly undercooked broccoli’

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    2 months ago

    I believe it’s what they learned growing up on YouTube/social media. Demonetization is why content is censored, but when perceived from a child’s eyes, without that context, it can easily be seen as “the norm”.