• mlg@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    meanwhile Linus hounding down the google devs for making stupid pull requests

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        Years ago, Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, was notoriously mean to people who submitted bad code.

        Like he would straight up call it absolute dogshit and say they should feel ashamed, he’d call them fucking morons, on one occasion I believe he even told someone to kill themselves.

        In the years since, though, he’s said that he’s found the abrasive authority figure schtick doesn’t really work and has the unfortunate side effect of making others involved adversarial too, or will hasten the notorious FOSS developer burnout, and he has changed to a much warmer and friendlier way of working, and been quite apologetic about his past attitude.

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          Oh he’s still perfectly blunt about code, and even about people if need be but he makes sure he has a good night’s worth of sleep before he does that to not do it in anger. Which means dress-downs are now of the “I’m not angry, I’m disappointed” type. I’m not aware of him ever telling people to kill themselves, just erm “wondering”:

          Of course, I’d also suggest that whoever was the genius who thought it was a good idea to read things ONE F*CKING BYTE AT A TIME with system calls for each byte should be retroactively aborted. Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?

          (And to be fair, yes, reading things one byte at a time is fucking stupid. Not something you’d ever expect in a kernel)

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            I’m not referring to that incident, I’m referring to his criticisms when he was using OpenSUSE and became frustrated at having to use the root password to do basically anything:

            “If you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that [users] need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place.”

            And just as with you said above, yes, he is right, but it was completely uncalled for and unprofessional to go about the criticism in such a way.

            I do find his quips funny, and in some workplaces it’d just be behind-closed-doors banter, but it’s right that he doesn’t go on mean rants anymore. Publicly humiliating devs and wiping your hands clean of the situation while your fans continue to harass them is not optimal.

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    3 months ago

    The trick is to stop giving af about demands from random assholes. Using software doesn’t entitle anyone to updates. Part of the point of open source is if you want it to be different, the source code is available for you to do that.

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      3 months ago

      This comment said:

      Naturally closed source for profit software is so much better and would never contain anything malicious.

      We know this for certain because the PR department affirmed us that there is nothing malicious or illegal within their code. There internal investigations found no proof of hacking from external sources, All code changes where done with the full legal permission of our Ceo and Overlord Marz Kucherberg ™

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        3 months ago

        I mistook the post and didn’t know it was about bullying specifically so my comment was unwarranted

        There have been other posts of late where my sentiment is more ontopic but here it only muddies the actual discussion.

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      No need to be so defensive… unless you you the F-Droid team they are writing about. Are you?

      Either way it is just whataboutism aimed at a strawman. No one is saying proprietary software is better.

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        Not sure why its still showing for you but i removed my comment seconds after posting as i misread and didnt know this was about bulling. I firmly stand against bullies of any kind.

        Ever since the xz thing i have noticed a general increase in articles and clickbait titles spreading fear about open source software in general, its started to feel like intentional propaganda, for this post it was unwarranted.

        Ps: please do confirm if my comments is removed by now on your end, i suspect comments may not always continue to sync between lemmy servers after the first initial postings.

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          No, I still see it. Not sure why, maybe because I commented on it.

          I’ve had several comments behave the same way, unable to actually delete them, even after waiting a while for the delete to propagate.

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            3 months ago

            The best thing to do is edit it to be just a period then delete. I can still sew deleted comments by hitting copy text

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    It’s probably far more common than most people realize. Open source software doesn’t automatically make it secure, and in many cases can be less secure than closed source as it’s just one or two people doing it for free.

    Much easier to be tempted to do something wrong or to get others to help in and take the weight off.

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      in many cases can be less secure than closed source as it’s just one or two people doing it for free.

      Absurd take. How could having the source closed possibly enhance the security?

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      Closed source software has the exact same bullying issue, the difference is instead of the bullies being random people on the internet, they are managers with power over you. They are at least as likely to make you do something dangerous as the randoms, but they don’t have to try as hard to hide it.

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      3 months ago

      How do you qualify the security of a closed source code when you can’t verify it?