There’s nothing wrong with criticism or calling out bad behavior. However, shouting “ACAB” in a thread about police violence, making jokes about beheading rich people, or throwing “muskrat” comments in discussions about Elon Musk, just to name a few examples, makes you an asshole and part of the reason why social media is so incredibly toxic.

If you’re doing that while also explaining why you feel that way, then it’s still not the best approach, but at least you’re contributing to the conversation instead of just making noise. Throwing out insults without adding substance doesn’t challenge anyone or encourage meaningful discussion; it just perpetuates the toxic environment that so many of us complain about.

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    To summarize: You hate phrasing the indicates solidarity. Further, you feel you are entitled to a specific level of discourse and consider anyone who does not pass this gate you keep to be toxic. To that I say: NO U!

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    ACAB is not an insult, it’s shorthand for an ideological shift in how we perceive civil servants. It’s a reminder, or a clue for those who haven’t seen it before, that we have a very real problem.

    Similarly, references to the guillotine should serve as a reminder that the social contract applies to everyone. When the rich devalue the lives of the poor, enriching themselves at the expense of human suffering, they need a reminder that they are outnumbered. The downtrodden need a reminder that basic human decency is a reciprocal requirement.

    I’m with you on personal insults, even against shitbags like Leon, but I also enjoy clever or novel insults, so it’s more about how repetitive they are for me.

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      Thought-terminating clichés like “ACAB” never changed anyone’s view on civil servants. It’s virtue signaling to the in-group and baiting the out-group. The intention is to fish for upvotes and provoke outrage, fitting the very definition of slacktivism.

      If the goal is to inspire real change in the world, spreading awareness and writing thoughtful, engaging comments is a far better approach.

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        I don’t think you’re wrong, but I think you expect too much from people. Some people don’t have more to offer than virtue signaling and proviking outrage. Not everyone has the capacity to write a thoughtful and compelling argument. We’re hanging out on Lemmy writing comments to each other. It’s an open forum. There’s no entrance exams or rules against slacktivism.

        And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a slogan or a chant or a meme or a bumper sticker or a tshirt or a hat or a button or a plaquard or a tweet or an emoji being the summary of your message. It’s easier to share and easier to remember. Calling it “slacktivism” is itself a clever portmanteau to convey a much broader concept, instead of a thoughtful and compelling argument. But I’m not mad, because I understood what you were saying and do not need additional convincing.

        If you’re reading yet another article about police protecting a criminal because the criminal wears a badge, then “ACAB” is sufficient to share your point of view. It would be really cool if we didn’t live in a society where the term had any relevance, and nobody knew exactly what it meant. Sadly, the things we have shorthand for tell us the things we see a lot.

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    Respectability politics and it’s consequences.

    The opposition will gladly call you a cat eating demonic rapist pedophile without breaking a sweat, and you’re here worrying about Elon Musks feelings or some shit.

    Being “respectable” doesn’t make you better, kinda just makes you a rube.

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    Really muskrat is what you are worried about? That’s the least you could say about him. That’s tame. Maybe the real reason social media so toxic is because said muskrat keeps promoting and endorsing pedophiles, literal Nazis, racism, and general hatred.

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      That’s not particularly fair interpretation of what I said. I named 2 other examples too, which you conveniently ignored.

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        I’m sorry so you said it but I’m not supposed to address it because why exactly? You’re the one that said it. Only one conveniently ignoring things here seems to be you conveniently ignoring the ramifications of what you yourself said.

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          It’s not calling Elon a muskrat that I take issue with. It’s being the kind of person who feels the urge to do that. Decent people understand when to stay silent if they have nothing meaningful to add. Assholes don’t.

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            Calling out someone who promotes endorses and Embraces racism pedophilia Nazism and jingoism seems pretty fucking meaningful to me. Maybe you should ask yourself why you’re so desperate to defend that person. Why you really doing this buddy?

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    It may be a toxic environment to you, but it’s full of vital nutrition for me. I guess you could find a new place where you fit in more easily.

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    I didn’t know how unpopular that is, but the “elites” of our society like you mentioned (billionaires, police, government, giant corporations) think they’re above reproach or that they don’t even have to care what we think. That’s why comments qualify as discussion even if they’re short. I don’t think that rises to the level of “hate”…