He’s your president. Accept it.
Yes. The ticket got elected, not just orange turdsicle. Succession applies here.
Others have explained that it depends on when, but I want to add this: when a VP becomes pres. through succession, the speaker does not become VP automatically. The new pres. picks whoever they want. Ford chose the governor of NY, for example.
Don’t know, but I like your thinking.
How many folks do we have to sniper before we get to someone who isn’t a fascist?
At least 3
I wouldn’t hold my breath. Dudes been scarfing down cheeseburgers most of his life, and hasn’t died yet.
Two assassination plots though, and that was before his presidency was assured. I’m not hoping, I’m not calling for it. But the impulse definitely seems to be out there to pop a cap in this man.
Vance would be sworn in as president and then pick a VP to be nominated by Congress. The Speaker wouldn’t move up to VP, they would find a new number 2.
Mike would be sworn in, if Trump takes Vance out while he has his heart attack.
That’s only after the electoral college votes.
It has never happened before, so we don’t really know. What I think would happen is that Vance would just get immediately sworn in as the President on Jan 20 if God exercises His Ultimate Veto on Trump’s second term.
But the Presidential Succession Act only covers vacancies for the Presidency. Once the office of the President is filled again, nothing else happens. It’s not like everyone else “moves up” a slot. Mike Johnson would probably see the VP position as a demotion honestly.
The Office of the VP would remain vacant until President Vance nominates a candidate, and then it must be approved by both houses of Congress in order for the position to be filled.
There is never a path for the speaker of the house to become vice president. Either the President and Vice President are dead and he’s president, or he’s still just the speaker.
As others have pointed out, before or after the electoral count is completed, makes a minor difference. It would be interesting to watch it play out.
Unless of course the VP dies and the President nominated the speaker as the VP and was confirmed
Probably. Republicans would fight tooth and nail to stay in power. And with the House and Senate, plus Supreme Court on thier side it wouldn’t even be a contest.
Johnson doesn’t just move up into a new job. They’d have to pick a new vice president. They could pick Johnson I suppose, I don’t know why he would want to be the vice president when he is Speaker of the House though. Now the question is how they pick a new vice president, because I don’t believe there’s any precedent to guide that. Would they have to nominate one in Congress and have them vote on him? That’s what they would do if the vice president already been sworn in, but since he wouldn’t have been at that point I don’t know there’s any real way of knowing. You can make an argument that the RNC would be able to just name one, but again there’s no precedent.
I figured it’s Johnson because it’s always Johnson… Andrew Johnson after Lincoln and Lindon B. after JFK
The accepted wisdom is yes. The people voted for the VP already and that is honored. Worst case scenario is the election ends up in Congress where Vance would win anyways.
Is that better? That fuckfacescara is more competent than the Twinkie
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If trump died before the Electoral Votes are cast, they wouldn’t be bound to vote for him and can vote for anyone, but its almost certainly going to be vance. Then either vance or RNC picks someone else to be the new VP to tells the electors to now instead of voting: [Pres: trump VP: vance] its now [Pres: vance VP: whoever they find to take this role]
If both trump and vance died before the electoral votes are cast, then RNC find 2 new people to tell their electors to vote for.
(Remember Electors are selected by their parties and are usually party loyalists that aren’t gonna vote for the opposing party. Think of people like Former President Obama being an elector in his state for the democratic ticket, he aint voting trump ever, and same thing with a loyal maga supporter, they aint ever switching to vote Democrat.)
If trump died after the electoral votes are cast, vance takes the oath and become 47th president, VP is empty. vance can appoint someone to be VP with simple majority of both houses.
If both trump and vance died after the electoral votes are cast, the speaker of the house, mike johnson, swears in as Acting President (after being required to resign as speaker of the house) for the rest of the term or until someone else above them in the line of sucession becomes available to be acting president. (We dont know what happens if acting president mike johnson nominates a VP since the new VP would be above him in the line of sucession)
Only VP takes the title of “President”, everyone else in the line of sucession is not designated by the constitution but is only statutory.
This is a wonderful explainer, thank you!
