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    God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.

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      this is a direct consequence of the Supreme Court overturning the Chevron deference back in June. the appeals court has to apply the law. so you know who to blame.

      expect more cases like this in coming years…

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        Sarcastically speaking, if they want white only public bathrooms, that would be interesting. On the one hand people gave up their lives for us to have the freedom to go in the same places as white people. On the other hand… Its public restrooms!

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      It’s currently not fill with people who want to help “prople”. It currently is setup to help corporate America only at this point. At the expense of your rights.

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        You know, in Germany there are some (we call them Reichsbürger ~ Empire Citizens) that believe the allied installed a puppet government in Germany and we are actually a GmbH (equivalent to US LLCs according to Wikipedia) called the Bundesrepublik Deutschland GmbH and a kind of proof should be that are ID cards are called “Personalausweis” which could be taken as Personal (eng. Employee) and Ausweis (eng. Identification).

        The US basically does all of the Corpo things those conspiracy nuts see into the German government.
        From the BS corp politics down to the office rumors.

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          Sounds a lot like American sovereign citizens. SovCits believe America is a corporation that was set up on top of the Articles of Confederation, (which was the precursor to the American Constitution). They basically believe that they can refuse to do business with the “corporation” (government) and be able to break any laws that aren’t written in the Articles of Confederation.

          It’s where the “I’m not driving, I’m traveling” memes come from, because the articles of confederation mentioned a right to freely travel. So the SovCits think they can drive without a valid license or vehicle registration, which leads to lots of police dashcam footage of SovCits getting tased during traffic stops when they become irate or try to flee.

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            Basically the US equivalent.
            Afaik they (try to) have their own IDs, car license plates and many more things.
            But they are also dangerous folks as they like to arm themselves with guns (which are obviously uncommon to have as a regular citizen).

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          Technically speaking every country is a company and government is supervisory board elected by citizens that are owners that pay wages that are called tax. Just the purpose of country establishement is different or used to be different before 21th century. Right now the differentce is not so much visible as it was 100 or even 1000 years ago where people that were government leaders (kings, princes, lords, army generals) fought with people for independence and human rights. Right now elected people are no different than influencers or actors. They just do stuff to get to the table, not more not less.

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      God our government is so fucking useless for anything that might actually help people.

      More specifically: gop.gov

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      This isn’t “our government” these are the oligarch’s meatbags purchased for surprisingly low dollar amounts. These men (and women that silently stand next to them until they are told they are allowed to speak) are cowards and traitors. They are not “our government”

      Your post is the right energy, wrong message.

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      One could go for a hundred years and not touch this shit. But nah. Some dirtbag judge asshole actively working to fuck us all over.

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      That’s because they’re not even trying to help people, except people who can pay.

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      Wait! You will get in trouble for that. Instead you need to have an LLC that does that for Profit somehow. Then all is forgiven!

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      Put hundreds of them in a pretty boxes, form an LLC, get a few VCs to sign on, flip the switch, then charge a monthly fee to “open previously-inacessible service areas to cellular customers” and you’ll have a successful startup!

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      Ah but technically it’s still illegal to disrupt emergency services and also leaves you liable to lawsuits.

      But yeah, the FCC in particular can’t stop you from doing that.

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      Hold on, GumpyDuckling… checks clipboard tsk tsk, I see here you’re not wealthy enough to effectively lobby to get us in trouble; I’m afraid that’ll be a $10,000 fine.

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    Their excuse is that telecom services aren’t actually providing telecom services, but information services.

    If that doesn’t make sense to you, it’s because you aren’t brain-damaged.

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      So… They’re responsible for the misinformation sent to my device against my will now, right?

      Obviously not because our leaders need to be killed brutally where all can see what happens, but in principle?

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        They’re trying to ban tiktok. I’ve never used it but it’s just because it’s Chinese, social media from any other company based in any other country is just as fucked and unhealthy and unregulated in the US, but they are going to ban it specifically for its country of origin. China pills a lot of weight and the company tiktok is powerful and fighting it in court and all but it seems pretty obvious it’ll go through even under current admin watch–let alone when a direct competitor and owner of Xitter owns the White House.

        While yes, you’re logistically correct it would be very difficult to shut down the whole Internet, that’s not the goal, the goal is to massively control it and enshittify it beyond your worst dreams.

        Look to China and Russia for "internet"TM

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          Fair point. But I just believe it goes to show that more websites need to be available on the darknet. Not because it’s a scary or bad place to be, but because it can’t be censored. Not nearly as easily, anyway. Top level domains can very easily be seized by the domain registrar or ICANN, etc. But since onion domains use keys, it’s impossible to seize them without seizing the server they run on.

          The vast majority of people are woefully ill-prepared for an adversarial internet.

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          I’m not one for conspiracy theories but I could see where some come from that TikTok is made to dumb down the generation and make them even more addicted than local versions (FB, IG, YT).
          And with how much weight is behind Tiktok they are probably a very good entry for outside adversaries into local networks.

          I mean how many have installed AliExpress or WeChat on their phone? Not many have gizmo apps from China (like DJI) but TikTok? Oh boy a fuckload of people have that.

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      But they’ll call it freedom of speech. Speech someone/corp paid for of course, but Citizens United…

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    comes a time when blue states just need to draw the line and flat out refuse to follow federal laws and judges until federal judges stop being corrupt.

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      They do it for marijuana laws but won’t treat anything else like that. I don’t understand.

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        most blue states send more than they receive; all they have to do is stop sending money back to the federal government and red states would go broke.

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          The states never see that money though. It’s directly from blue state workers’ paychecks and never passes through state owned bank accounts.

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              You’re going to have to explain how that can change. And how it could be done quickly. Because I’ll tell you neither of those are remotely true.

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                The IRS can’t hunt down the current tax evading people even with state help

                If state enforcement stops helping federal enforcement and the state tells everyone to stop paying their federal taxes then short of an actual invasion by the US military there’s basically jack shit the fed can do

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                  No company is going to stop paying their withholding if they don’t want to get shut down. Don’t be daft.

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      I really ought to set up that community meshnet I keep thinking about setting up…

      Oh hey, I keep thinking about doing this to and hosting a website like the old days lol, but when I search about it the biggest thing that comes up is like LoRa, but ig it’s too slow for hosting internet-like services

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        Meshtastic is 80% geeky fun hobby, 20% preparedness, and 0% ready to facilitate anything more than simple text messages. Still neat, though.

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          Yeah, we’ve got some T-decks and so far it’s only been a novelty and the intended purpose is just so we can text from a decent distance if infrastructure goes down. Will probably also see some occasional use camping as a backup for our radios with a T-beam attached to a bear bag up in a tree as a relay.

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            That’s true, but from what I’ve seen they haven’t really been a standard in the nodes that folks are building.

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    Is this really shocking with the incoming sadministration?

    That’s not a typo.

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      Comment section tries not to blame Biden for actions taken by the judicial branch, with judges appointed by Bush and Trump. Difficulty: Impossible.

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    In its opinion, a three-judge panel pointed to a Supreme Court decision in June, known as Loper Bright, that overturned a 1984 legal precedent that gave deference to government agencies on regulations.

    “Applying Loper Bright means we can end the F.C.C.’s vacillations,” the court ruled.

    “Nyyeaahh nyyeaah nyyeaaaahh ppffthhhhthhth!!” they said.

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      So now all regulatory policy has to through the fucking gauntlet of legislative process where the wealthy will just veto everything that doesn’t benefit them…this nation is captured beyond belief.

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    Like most large changes, it requires an act of Congress. Doing these via the executive leads to weak outcomes like this.

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      The thing is Congress doesn’t have time to deal with technical details. That’s why they passed a law authorizing the FCC to make exactly this kind of regulation. The conservative courts throwing everything they don’t like under the Major Questions Doctrine is just a way to make sure regulation never happens and Corporations are free to exploit people however they want. The problem here isn’t the FCC, it’s bad faith judges with the power to stop the entire government.

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        Regulating ISPs as a utility is a pretty big change, not simply a technical detail; it is in the purview of Congress.

        Congressmen aren’t individually drafting bills, they direct their aids to draft the bills and hammer out the details. We don’t need to overhaul our system, we need congressmen to do their job rather than offloading their job to the Executive.

        Edit: Said bill would direct the Executive on how to regulate them as a utility at which point small technical details, as you mention, are handled by the Executive.

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          ISPs are just transmitting a different kind of data on the same infrastructure backbone as the rest of our telecommunications. Don’t act like it’s some huge difference.

          And they are doing their jobs, they’d have to hire exponentially more staffers to go over what was in bills or just vote the way their preferred donor says to vote. Which do you think is more likely there?

          Congress has the power to delegate regulations, they used that power, and now a radical judiciary is claiming the plain text of the Constitution doesn’t mean what it clearly means.

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          Congressmen aren’t individually drafting bills, they direct their aids to draft the bills and hammer out the details

          One slight point, this isn’t how they get legislative drafts. Legislative drafts come from thinktanks like Heritage, ALEC, Vote Blue, etc.

          Oligarchs write legislation, and then find a congresscritter that owes them a favor. They “lobby” for it, ie they stop into the congresscritter’s office, drop the envelope with the text, drop a check for their campaign fund, and then the congresscritter gets it to pass.

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    tbf it’s not hard to convince hayseed chucklefuck trumplings that regulations which exist to protect them are a bad thing because they cost money. we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.

    when bridges start collapsing left and right, they’ll blame drag queens and the maga trumpistan patriots will lap it up like hogs at the trough

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      we had condo buildings collapsing and people dying WITH regulations.

      Further proof that regulations don’t work! The Invisible Sky Daddy Hand shalt self-correct! All is right with the world! Praise be unto The Market, may its blessed Line forever Go Up.

      Now, let us prey.

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    This is ridiculous how difficult it is to get this law through. Clearly it must be something good. I am 100% behind it.

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    Does anyone know where President Muskrat stands on NN? Maybe there might be some silver lining there in that whole shit show :(