• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    It’s actually really super simple. You would be subject to the laws of the country you reside in or are a citizen of.

    Laws don’t magically stop working just because you’re out of jurisdiction.

    There’s also, admiralty law, Maritime law and international law, all of which have courts in designated countries. These laws are usually governed by treaty amongst many countries.

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      How is it that a US citizen, for example, is allowed to purchase and consume alcohol in intentional waters at age 18 when the law is 21 in their country?

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      Laws don’t magically stop working just because you’re out of jurisdiction.

      Actually I would say that most do. Extraterritorial jurisdiction is the exception, not the rule. Many countries apply it for cases of Genocide and War Crimes for example.

      You are right though that many countries apply their laws to vessels under their flags in international waters

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      What about cruise ships and their changes to gambling when in international waters? I’ve read quite a few times that the rules their machines work with change dramatically in that case. And they’re mostly still registered in countries with more strict rules otherwise.

      Provided the above is true of course. Or could they be sued in this case?

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        Gambling is generally a regional thing and is subject to each state. Usually it’s governed by where you are currently.

        Cruise ships on the other hand are governed by the country the ship is registered in and/or by whatever country they’re docked at.

        So a law will state specifically that there is no private gambling allowed within the confines of a certain geographical area such as the state of Washington, for example. The law can also make provisions that gambling is allowed on Indian reservations or within certain city limits.

        The cruise ship leaves the geographical area where gambling is not allowed and allows gambling to occur in international waters which is fully law-abiding.

        Also, most states and governments will provide licensing for casinos. If you qualify you may proceed with gambling in that jurisdiction.

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        I assume when you say stateless you are probably referring to the United States. Although there are other country’s with states but nevertheless the same would still apply.

        You gotta be from somewhere. If you’re indigenous in the state of Ohio you’re still a resident of Ohio in the country of America. All laws still apply.

        If you’re referring to something like a sovereign citizen all laws still apply regardless of what people like that may believe.

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    Casual Navigation talks a bit about this: What Law Applies In International Waters? Essentially, the ship needs to be registered to a country and the laws of that country apply while on the ship. Most ships register themselves in a country with very lax laws, known as a “flag of convenience”. The laws of Libera, Panama, and Marshall Islands must be pretty convenient since those are countries most ships get registered.

    What happens if you don’t register your ship? It’s the same as not having a passport. You’re going to have a hard time when you want to dock at a port.

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    Theoretically, the yacht follows the laws of the place it’s registered. On practice, the country you and your friends live will be the one that cares about it… so, it’s not any different from what you can do at home.

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    I think you can get away with just about anything, so long as it doesn’t piss off anyone with a bigger navy than you own.

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    I’m not sure but I think you would have to comply with the laws of the yacht’s flag country. Not carrying the flag I think is a big crime basically everywhere

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      Not carrying the flag I think is a big crime basically everywhere

      Hence why flying the pirate flag is a big deal. You’re indicating “no laws here”.

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    As long as you stay out of any land (+x miles distance), and no one of your people calls for help, you can get away with anything, because nobody is coming to check on you, ever.

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        I’ll try my best. It is probably somewhat helpful for me that I do not have an appropriate boat.

        But regarding these people with their huge luxury boats out there: I am pretty sure that they are doing it for the sole purpose of committing all kinds of sins.

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        We’re assuming they are making a sin live broadcast or recording, for there to be any sort of commenting? Is it like a strange new radical sports event?