Hell of a shower thought, Mr. Sagan.
Can’t say I’d ever get a shower erection with that thought. /tmi
Cleansing as a pretentious melancholic.
The the DNA brick wall we’ve been climbing is exactly that.
You’ve reminded me of some of my favorite hip hop lyrics of all time. If you never heard Eyedea before he died (27 club, I think?), Eyedea had Eminem level potential. Fucking incredible lyricist. If this tickles your fancy, go peep the album First Born.
Eyedea & Abilities - Man vs Ape
Move!
There’s no telling what I’ma do
I’m eighty-thousand years of natural selection comin through
You ain’t got as much aggression, possessions, weapons
I’ll be damned if I get outdone by the next man
If you’re beliefs are different than mine, then we gonna fight
Who needs peace when you can profit from being right?
I hold picket signs outside abortion clinic doors
Take what I want with force
And my God could kill yours
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Involved with a species evolving so slowly
Genetically infantile, violent and holy
We think we’re so smart but there’s not much to know
Caveman is still alive behind those robot eyes
Fully controlled by ten thousand year old instincts
Hands on the war button, flinch and your world’s extinct
This is technology for the barbarian
I see the future: the past, we’ll be there again
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Remember, the atom bomb came from the same place as poetry
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Die dirty hippy commie scum, Christian, Muslim Buddhist, Jew
Democrat, factory-workin, college student you…
My nervous system don’t take no bullshit
Been dominating since the day I touched the monolith
I only breed with sex-symbol worthy women
They stay at home and cook while I go out a make a living
Don’t challenge my ego, don’t step on my shoe
Otherwise the next wake that you attend might be for you
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Grindin’ my teeth as I’m battling uphill
The fight against ape-hood is fate versus free will
We think we’re advanced but there’s nowhere to go
Mammals stay captive to animal actions
So slowly we climb up this DNA brick wall
Addicted to emptiness, anger and pitfalls
Desire for space, territory, or lust
We’ll eventually turn this whole planet to dust
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There can be no peace when man is still a part of it
.
Purpose, perseverance, wordless amoeba surface
To lead the first coherent paleolithic circus
Specific neuro-circuits link man and Neanderthal
However, recent bio-chemical imprints
conflict with primitive urges
It’s full blown ontological warfare
Murdering memories in the future two million years
Peace is a word we often say,
But it can’t exist as long as the ape is here to stay
Do you have other song recommendations with larger than life topics like this ?
I don’t listen to hip-hop but I like the theme of this one.
I recommend the album, Eyedea & Abilities - first born
The dive part 1 and 2 will blow your mind. And the song Read Wiped in Blue has some lyrics that are relevant today:
Another of his, A Murder of Memories, about war/PTSD.
Thank you !
I think the evolution of multicellular life is most likely to be the great filter, since it took the longest to develop on earth.
Maybe the great filter was the friends we made along the way?
What if the great filter is our love of carbs?
Hey, carbs are awesome.
Leave the flying spaghetti monster out of this.
I like the idea that the Great Filter is really just civilizations turning inward. Like they all get to a point where they realize that space travel is just really not viable and so they stop looking to explore the universe or find other life. Instead they turn to virtual worlds to prolong their existence with what resources they have available in their own star systems. Not even Dyson spheres or anything, they just go into digital hibernation and live out the rest of their lifetimes in a fabricated paradise for however long they can. Maybe they’re able to use drugs/genetics/whatever to slow time down to a crawl where it feels like they live thousands of years within a normal lifespan.
For Outer Wilds fans, basically:
spoiler
Owlks
Then we would start ‘behavorial sink’ and slowly decline in population. Someone else mentioned Calhoun and his rat utopia the other day and I looked it up. It seems like we are going through our version of behavioral sink.
So we all just happily go back to living in forest?
I mean there are multiple proposed filters.
Suppose yours is correct. What is this humanity’s nature you speak of?
Bravery? Foolishness? Wisdom? Violence? Greed?
What what of those attributes haven’t we already overcome time and again?
It’s much more probable that everyone out there is attentively listening to signals instead of radically changing their own mental processes. Or not
So like, we all just give up as a species? Sounds unlikely.
Think of Star Trek as an analogy.
- The Archers, Pikes, Kirks succeeded by being bold and daring, confronting dangers, fighting to survive. The Siskos and Burnhams instigated war on a galactic scale. They were violent, reactive, risk takers
- a couple centuries later, the Picards confronted greater obstacles but with reason, compassion, self-sacrifice. If Kirk had faced Q, that would have been the great filter, but Picard succeeded as a human evolved past his violent reactions
I’ve never watched Star Trek.
I know, heresy for lemmy.
I also use windows and not linux (though I plan on switching when I get time to learn linux)
Wow, it’s like talking to an Alien …… while I do occasionally use Windows, my main laptop is OSX, my home servers are Raspian and Suse and at work I use Red Hat, Debian and whatever Amazon Linux is, and my media consumption is Linux or iOS